ESPN Article on PSA

Belfast1933 · #1 04-15-2021, 04:00 PM

Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It�s still a �buy the card, not the case� opportunity but I�d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?

Johnny630 · #2 04-15-2021, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It’s still a “buy the card, not the case” opportunity but I’d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?

Technology would be great for the honest guys, AI is not good for the card doctors and gamblers who love to take chances and cut corners. I think the Grading Companies as they are comprised of would be totally against AI grading.

darwinbulldog · #3 04-15-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfast1933

Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It�s still a �buy the card, not the case� opportunity but I�d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?

It would clearly be better. The eye appeal point is, frankly, stupid. That's the one thing we definitely don't need third party graders to tell us.

Santo10Fan · #4 04-15-2021, 04:50 PM

Maybe it's good for the new generation to learn condition all on their own. Who knows??

jcc6252 · #5 04-15-2021, 05:28 PM

According to the article, "Crenshaw's company has a 96% accuracy rate on predicting what Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) would grade a card."

I call BS. We all know PSA is all over the place with their assigned grades, and with their new, inexperienced workforce, the grading is no doubt even more unpredictable. I would be surprised if they hit 80%.

ullmandds · #6 04-15-2021, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

According to the article, "Crenshaw's company has a 96% accuracy rate on predicting what Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) would grade a card."

I call BS. We all know PSA is all over the place with their assigned grades, and with their new, inexperienced workforce, the grading is no doubt even more unpredictable. I would be surprised if they hit 80%.

maybe they're not so unpredictable with their "best" customers?

Johnny630 · #7 04-15-2021, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

maybe they're not so unpredictable with their "best" customers?

boom

perezfan · #8 04-15-2021, 05:49 PM

ESPN sucks. I turned them off the second they felt the need to make every aspect of sports political. The last thing I want to watch is "agendized" sports.

Bad reporting as well. Not even a mention of the alteration scandal, and the hobby's real need for AI technology. Quoting PWCC, Probstein and PSA as reputable sources doesn't add to their credibility either.

darwinbulldog · #9 04-15-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

According to the article, "Crenshaw's company has a 96% accuracy rate on predicting what Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) would grade a card."

I call BS. We all know PSA is all over the place with their assigned grades, and with their new, inexperienced workforce, the grading is no doubt even more unpredictable. I would be surprised if they hit 80%.

Maybe it's a .96 correlation? That wouldn't be so tough if they're submitting a lot of lower condition vintage cards. Or maybe it's just 96% are within 1.5 points or something like that.

rats60 · #10 04-15-2021, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Maybe it's a .96 correlation? That wouldn't be so tough if they're submitting a lot of lower condition vintage cards. Or maybe it's just 96% are within 1.5 points or something like that.

I think they are only sending in ultra modern. Maybe he means that 96% of the cards are 9 or 10 and 4% are 8.5 or less. No way they are getting 96% exactly right.

Peter_Spaeth · #11 04-15-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rats60

I think they are only sending in ultra modern. Maybe he means that 96% of the cards are 9 or 10 and 4% are 8.5 or less. No way they are getting 96% exactly right.

I bet I could predict a 4sc sub with 100 percent accurancy.

drcy · #12 04-16-2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

According to the article, "Crenshaw's company has a 96% accuracy rate on predicting what Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) would grade a card."

I call BS. We all know PSA is all over the place with their assigned grades, and with their new, inexperienced workforce, the grading is no doubt even more unpredictable. I would be surprised if they hit 80%.

Yes, I agree. The variation in grading appears to be higher than 4%

slidekellyslide · #13 04-16-2021, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jcc6252

According to the article, "Crenshaw's company has a 96% accuracy rate on predicting what Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) would grade a card."

I call BS. We all know PSA is all over the place with their assigned grades, and with their new, inexperienced workforce, the grading is no doubt even more unpredictable. I would be surprised if they hit 80%.

Yep. Has to be bullshit when a 9 is equal to a 10 especially with modern era cards.

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