Who own the copyright of t205 images?

chriskim · #1 04-18-2021, 11:27 AM

My main question is for those people who own those PSA10 t205 or t205 errors, do they actually own the image copyright of his cards?

Jason19th · #2 04-18-2021, 11:44 AM

I don’t think that copyright is the correct legal principal. I think the issue is can you publish an image of someone’s personal property without their permission. Rather then thinking of the image I think you need to think of the singular object. I would tend to think that you could not publish it without permission.

swarmee · #3 04-18-2021, 12:12 PM

You should figure out who can create NFTs of high grade vintage cards! Ca-ching!

dbrown · #4 04-18-2021, 12:26 PM

There is case law on this -- Bridgeman Art Library vs. Corel (1999) "ruled that exact photographic copies of public domain images could not be protected by copyright in the United States because the copies lack originality." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge..._v._Corel_Corp.)

Miscuts, variations, etc., were still published, and are thus in the public domain. Unpublished material can be a whole other ball of wax, if IP ownership has been carefully managed, as with a few long-term literary estates.

(I am not a lawyer so don't depend on my info for your legal cases, please.)

If you're making an image of a slabbed card -- photo or scan, doesn't matter -- you'd have a better argument that it is a unique, copyright-able work, since the presence of the card's unique ID # etc. make it more than an exact copy of a public domain image.

All that said, it would still be wise and polite to get permission.

chriskim · #5 04-18-2021, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrown

There is case law on this -- Bridgeman Art Library vs. Corel (1999) "ruled that exact photographic copies of*public domain*images could not be protected by*copyright*in the United States because the copies lack*originality."(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridge..._v._Corel_Corp.)

Miscuts, variations, etc., were still published, and are thus in the public domain. Unpublished material can be a whole other ball of wax, if IP ownership has been carefully managed, as with a few long-term literary estates.

(I am not a lawyer so don't depend on my info for your legal cases, please.)

If you're making an image of a slabbed card -- photo or scan, doesn't matter -- you'd have a better argument that it is a unique, copyright-able work, since the presence of the card's unique ID # etc. make it more than an exact copy of a public domain image.

All that said, it would still be wise and polite to get permission.

thx for the info. it would be tough for me to seek for permission from the owners of those cards. I am just trying to share all those t205 oddities images that I have collected from the internet for the past 25+ yrs. I just hope no one would mind me sharing their precious t205 collection with others, that's all.

packs · #6 04-18-2021, 01:35 PM

Newspapers publish social media posts they pull from people all the time. I think you just need to credit the source.

RCMcKenzie · #7 04-18-2021, 05:16 PM

When I want to post an example of a card that I no longer own, or simply found on the internet, like this yellow Leever, I say in my post (not my card).

Exhibitman · #8 04-24-2021, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

When I want to post an example of a card that I no longer own, or simply found on the internet, like this yellow Leever, I say in my post (not my card).

The yellow one looks better than the pink one.

RCMcKenzie · #9 04-24-2021, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The yellow one looks better than the pink one.

Although I think it's kind of neat, your view was shared by most of the people that commented on it when I first posted it. The seller and others viewed it as a sun-bleached, nothing-burger. (cards posted for educational purposes only)

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