Revisiting the 1910 PC805 Novelty Cutlery Postcard set.

[Casey2296]

I also think it's significant that the Novelty Cutlery company was located at their new factory at 67 Barr St in 1910 with an adjacent photo studio/gallery depicted in the lower left of the postcard Leon just acquired.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I also think it's significant that the Novelty Cutlery company was located at their new factory at 67 Barr St in 1910 with an adjacent photo studio/gallery depicted in the lower left of the postcard Leon just acquired.

Great card, should have snagged it.

What does the print say in the bottom right? Would be nice to have a date on that move into the new building. PC image looks like summer...

[Casey2296]

Lower right:
1st line looks like RUMD/illegible
2nd line: Martin & Co
3rd line: Detroit

We know they were located at Bar St. in 1910, we also know that the sets were probably not produced prior to that thanks to Kevin's research.

[rainier2004]

Also, as Phil pointed out, the Collins and Crawford look like the images were shot the same day at the same spot. That spot could be Bennett Park in 1909 as Philly came into town 3 times that year and these guys played each other. Doesn't look like Bennett to me though and their meetings were in summer and not spring and everyone has the long sleeves and all.

By 1909 teams were playing in Hot Springs including Philly and Detroit. They had a second field built in 1909 to accommodate all the teams coming for spring training and in 1912 a third field went in. Maybe they were taken there? Wonder how many of these images were taken in spring training?

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

By 1909 teams were playing in Hot Springs including Philly and Detroit. They had a second field built in 1909 to accommodate all the teams coming for spring training and in 1912 a third field went in. Maybe they were taken there? Wonder how many of these images were taken in spring training?

I actually thought that hose images vlooked like they were taken in Hot Springs, AR too. I have not had a chance to do any research though. If they were taken in Spring Training, it is very hard to date the images by their uniforms as it was common for the players to wear uniforms from previous years. I have seen images of teams in Spring Training where the players are dressed in three, four and five different uniforms from past years.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

I actually thought that hose images vlooked like they were taken in Hot Springs, AR too. I have not had a chance to do any research though. If they were taken in Spring Training, it is very hard to date the images by their uniforms as it was common for the players to wear uniforms from previous years. I have seen images of teams in Spring Training where the players are dressed in three, four and five different uniforms from past years.

Pics of those places are around, showing the left field wall from ground view was difficult to find. But yeah, spring training would throw the whole thing off like you said.

Im getting lost a bit, but Rick pointed out the spelling mistakes made. 805s had 4 spelling errors while the 796s only had Honas wrong, seems unlike then the 796s came first to only mess up 3 more players names after words.

Also, why are all the postmarks on the NCs in PA? I havent counted yet, but the 796 that just sold on ebay is also sent from PA.

[rainier2004]

The Cobb is the Frances Burke photo, no? Is there no date confirmation for this? Rick has all the info already laid out above, looks like it matches the 1905-07 pics I have. Where is this shot at? We know Burke took photos in 1907 of the team, assume this could be from the same shoot.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I also think it's significant that the Novelty Cutlery company was located at their new factory at 67 Barr St in 1910 with an adjacent photo studio/gallery depicted in the lower left of the postcard Leon just acquired.

Thanks Phil. It has great clarity in hand.

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