Impacts of recent Capital Gains law proposal

chriskim · #1 04-23-2021, 10:33 AM

I guess most people here are long term investors. I am more of a short term investor who is heavily invest in tech stocks, with that said, I guess I could be the only one seeing my portfolio turned from green to red and staying red recently. My bad for calling the stock market is tanking. sorry...

Exhibitman · #2 04-23-2021, 10:47 AM

The OP question is based on two false premises. (1) gains on cards have always been taxable, and (2) cards are not subject to the same preferential 15%-20% capital gains rate as stocks. Collectibles are taxed at up to a 28% rate:

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc409

In some cases it may be more efficient to form a business and pay marginal income taxes on net profits than to take a capital gains approach to card sales. It all depends on each person's specific financial profile. One thing I am pretty certain of is that no one is moving money from tax-efficient investment like stocks held for more than a year to a less efficient one like cards if they are making decisions based on capital gains taxes. Money is going into hard assets like cards because of two factors: (1) a belief in short-term potential for flipping in and out at a profit that cannot be garnered in other investments, and (2) as a small piece of a portfolio to hedge against inflation, similar to how metals and other tangible assets have been treated in the past. As to the latter, with the high expenses to enter and exit the market, I think it is not a good investment relative to others. But they are fun to own; you can't beat looking the Bambino in the eyes.

Yoda · #3 04-23-2021, 11:03 AM

I believe the proposed new tax law aims to restore tax equity by making some hedge funds' income, now treated as capital gains as taxable income. I imagine the present treatment has cost the Treasury billions.

Should be some fireworks in Congress on this one.

rjackson44 · #4 04-23-2021, 11:17 AM

Could care less

pwang100 · #5 04-23-2021, 11:42 AM

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Could care less

I never understood the saying " Could care less".. shouldn't it be " COULDN'T care less"?

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perezfan · #6 04-23-2021, 12:03 PM

Maybe he really could care less.... meaning he really does care?

egri · #7 04-23-2021, 12:19 PM

I've been hearing some version of the stock market is tanking/about to tank since 2011, when we were going to enter a double-dip recession like the EU did. During that time, the S&P 500 has gone from 1,257 to 4,183. There have been hiccups along the way, but with my time horizon, I'm not worried.

rjackson44 · #8 04-23-2021, 12:47 PM

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I never understood the saying " Could care less".. shouldn't it be " COULDN'T care less"?

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Couldn�t care less lol

TobaccoKing4 · #9 04-23-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskim

I guess most people here are long term investors. I am more of a short term investor who is heavily invest in tech stocks, with that said, I guess I could be the only one seeing my portfolio turned from green to red and staying red recently. My bad for calling the stock market is tanking. sorry...

You aren't the only one. Growth tech will be back once the inflation data settles down.

Republicaninmass · #10 04-23-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

You aren't the only one. Growth tech will be back once the inflation data settles down.

Curious how this one ages.

I'm my OWN contrarian indicator

TobaccoKing4 · #11 04-23-2021, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Curious how this one ages.

I'm my OWN contrarian indicator

Uh oh I've been quoted! Lol take it with a grain of salt, I'm not a financial advisor but from my understanding that's the way it will work. Fortunately Im young enough to get bailed out by my time horizon if I'm wrong

butchie_t · #12 04-23-2021, 12:29 PM

If my financial advisor EVER told me to sell my portfolio and reinvest in sports cards/memorabilia, I will immediately be looking for someone much more saner and stable.

packs · #13 04-23-2021, 12:40 PM

Only card collectors invest in cards. There are no circumstances that will ever change that.

The only things non-collectors buy are whales like the 52 Mantle. But that is the same type of person who wants to collect art so they seek out a Picasso. They are not actually interested in what they're buying, they just know it's expensive. That person is not going to filter themselves down into obscure Old Judges and type cards.

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