What are the chances?

[Bpm0014]

I saw NOTHING that led me to believe that it is NOT a GENUINE '33 Goudey...

Stock is right, felt right, smelled right, printing looked correct, etc. - it passes MY "Stink Test"!

I stand behind my assessment above that the autograph is very very close and could certainly be authentic. I’d need to see it in hand however. I know Ruth extremely well and have studied it extensively. This simply looks like he condensed his signature to fit it in the space. This is more than likely authentic.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I saw NOTHING that led me to believe that it is NOT a GENUINE '33 Goudey...

Stock is right, felt right, smelled right, printing looked correct, etc. - it passes MY "Stink Test"!

I stand behind my assessment above that the autograph is very very close and could certainly be authentic. I’d need to see it in hand however. I know Ruth extremely well and have studied it extensively. This simply looks like he condensed his signature to fit it in the space. This is more than likely authentic.

And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?

Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign


Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?

Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign


Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass

Whether authentic or not... the variance in pen pressure throughout the sig is a relatively common phenomenon. Some of Babe's sigs had uniform ink distribution throughout, but many did not. The fountain pens of the day were touchy and often unpredictable. A slight increase in pressure could easily result in a much darker/bolder line. Just a few examples of authentic sigs below...

[Jcosta19]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

And how would you explain the difference in pen pressure? That too since his signature was condensed?



Maybe it was a windy card and the card kept flapping around while he was trying to sign





Sadly, whether he did, or didnt sign, it only matters what a TPGs opinion is, and doubtful this would pass

I am no expert but I have not seen an authentic signed Ruth Goudey where he signs in open space only instead of across the image.

Obviously that doesn't mean much but just an observation.

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[rand1com]

The buyer at $6500 plus buyer commission either hit a grand slam, if authentic, or struck out 27 straight times if not.

I saw a 1956 Topps set sold for $13,500 plus commission and a 1957 Topps set at $11,000 plus commission. No way to tell from the description and pictures the condition but those are strong bids unless the sets were very nice.

[GaryPassamonte]

Originally Posted by rand1com

The buyer at $6500 plus buyer commission either hit a grand slam, if authentic, or struck out 27 straight times if not.

I saw a 1956 Topps set sold for $13,500 plus commission and a 1957 Topps set at $11,000 plus commission. No way to tell from the description and pictures the condition but those are strong bids unless the sets were very nice.

My sentiments exactly.

[packs]

Nobody would choose to make $6,500 over $50,000+ unless it wasn't possible to make $50,000+. There is only one reason it wouldn't be possible. I guess two reasons if the card is not authentic.

[rand1com]

There are plenty of people who inherit things they know nothing about and just consign to be sold at auction. It is possible that the consignor did absolutely no research and is thrilled to get $6500 for something they did not know had a much greater potential value.

I said from the beginning I did not like the autograph overall and I still don't but I agree with a few others that it just might be authentic.

I say that whoever paid $6500 + buyer premium for it probably did a lot more investigation into authenticity than we can from pictures. And there had to be at least 2 bidders thinking it was real to go from the minimum bid to $6500.

We may well see this card in a future major auction authenticated by JSA, PSA/DNA, or Beckett and it will bring a huge reward to the winning bidder.