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 no matter how you state your case. So Ultimately its "Not how good a deal you got but how good a deal you THINK you got"
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05-12-2021, 01:39 PM
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Jim,
I am truly sorry if I gave you the impression that I did not trust your opinion. I am very aware of your expertise in the autograph world and have bought autographs from you in the past. I thought you stated it was a very long shot as to authenticity but you did not totally rule it out. I assume that was your nice way of saying, "it's a forgery." The only reason I ever started the thread was because the check in the Heritage auction was drawn on the same bank and appeared to be filled out and signed by the same person, had the same Clearing House stamp, and the G.H. Ruth signature looked authentic to me. As I said, I wrote the loss off 15 years ago but the fact that this check showed up in the Heritage Auction made me want more clarification as the two are very similar. You have now clearly answered my question. Please continue to lend your expert opinions on this forum.
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05-12-2021, 03:48 PM
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Here are a couple you might like ...what do they have in common they are BOTH fake
______________________ ALWAYS BUYING VINTAGE AUTOGRAPHS jim@stinsonsports.com
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05-12-2021, 03:45 PM
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The opinion of someone expert who has handled multiple examples of these in person as Jim has must rate very highly. TL/DR for the following - Jim is right, and these are probably nowhere near as convincing in person as they are in scans. --------------------------------- The thing with less ink at the intersections... yeah, that's not normal for fountain pen. It made me go back and look at the random person checks from a couple years later, same bank. But this time not just looking at the backstamp, but the entire item in comparison. And there are some pretty big differences! one is that the real checks have a picture in the center, that didn't copy as well as the horizontal background lines. It doesn't copy well in a scan either apparently, but that's the entire point of security printing, that it's hard to copy. Found a closed auction for a couple blank checks from the right time period. https://www.ebay.com/itm/12427588480...p2047675.l2557 That's what they should look like.. better color, etc.
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05-12-2021, 04:25 PM
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The Behrers seem to have really gotten around.
Sending money to not only Ruth in the 40's, but to Al Capone in the 20's. Pretty good for a guy who ran a plumbing supply company and eventually a nightclub as well. Which he lost in around 1940... http://www.myalcaponemuseum.com/id76.htm Looks like they bought a "from the estate of a banker" story. Which makes no sense, checks would get sent back to the writer.
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