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How about years with none? 1953, right? And only one from 1956 and 1958 and 1959 (counting only players not managers). 1950, none also I think.
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06-15-2021, 04:13 PM
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Also none in 1970. 1985?
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06-15-2021, 06:22 PM
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1988 weighs in with 5: Alomar, Biggio, Glavine, Smoltz, and E. Martinez.
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06-16-2021, 10:26 PM
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06-17-2021, 01:14 PM
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You're right, no 1986 either, although I suspect McGriff and/or Bonds eventually will make it.
I just don't see how you can call a 1985 Puckett a rookie when he has a nationally distributed card from a top three brand in 1984, but whatever.
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06-18-2021, 06:16 PM
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Unless Beckett asked every collector, then it is Beckett who made the final determination. That premise established by Beckett is slowly being chipped away. 1984 Fleer Update Roger Clemens and Kirby Puckett are their rookie cards and are far more desirable cards than any of their 1985 cards. The fact they were harder to obtain makes it even appealing...not worse. As long as they are baseball cards, and not photos or something, how they were distributed (widespread or not) is meaning less and less in the eyes of many collectors. At this point, I prefer the regional and/or tougher issued cards. The 'traditional' counterparts get a little boring since there are so many of them in circulation. The 'true rookie card' has always been a moving target and viewed differently by everyone and is a contrived notion much like the Holiday of Sweetest Day is...so it doesn't really matter at that point. What it comes down to is if the 1984 Fleer Update is a better card than any of the 1985 issues. I say 100% yes they are. The fact they are more rare is a far more appealing factor than what Beckett says is a rookie card or not...but to each their own. Nobody will convince anyone who already has their mind made up on that topic anyway.
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 XRC is sham, 1985 Mcgwire is not an XRC and is not even a major league card... The emperor has no clothes over there in their designations. For me personally, I consider the first card issued in a major league uni the RC and agree fully that includes the Star sets, the 86' Fleer is years away from being a RC and easily the most overvalued and over hyped card in the hobby other than the 2nd year 1952 Mantle which is first place hands down. I know that not everyone has the same thoughts nor do I expect them to. These are my thoughts and beliefs and I would personally never call either a rookie.
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Agreed on 101 vs 57.
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