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Old 06-16-2021, 08:53 PM
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Here's the state of the hobby.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22449097676...p2047675.l2557

Compare to two on Jan. 31 in Goldin at 738K each.

Only a drop of 557K or whatever.

Let's spin this one, shall we?

Or did we (some of we) just get fooled yet again by sales talk, manipulation, and fraud?
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They couldn't even shill it higher!
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They couldn't even shill it higher!
They didn't need to. Probably dumped a bunch of them at 400-600.

And my guess is these will come down even more.
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How has this site not had a thread about this?

https://youtu.be/CPiALa0CIMc

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https://youtu.be/CPiALa0CIMc
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I feel like investors in certain action houses from Dec-March may have pushed many cards to their limits hoping suckers came in and out bid them, if they didn’t they bought back the cards by splitting the cost amongst each other, often relisting them or fractionalizing them. Many bought into this Bs and believed the Uber inflated numbers as real sales remember think Rickey Henderson Rook Jordan Rookie many more. A raising tide raises all boats, only if you sold, did any of you guys get these numbers for your cards ?? Highly unlikely. It has been my belief these investors made their monies on the under cards same exact card a grade or two lower.

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I made it about 35 seconds before I had to shut it off.
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I made it about 35 seconds before I had to shut it off.
34 more than I did.
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how has this site not had a thread about this?

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https://youtu.be/CPiALa0CIMc
Wow. That is something else. I do t know what to say.
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Wow. That is something else. I do t know what to say.
There's only one thing to say.

Ken Godin, Ken Godin, Hey, look at dem cards dat he hodin...

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Yeah I thought they stayed up for 90 days or something. Maybe Brentsy has wondrous magical powers.
Seems suspiciously quick to me, but then again, based on PWCC's flawless rep, I am likely just over thinking things?
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Ken Godin, Ken Godin, Hey, look at dem cards dat he hodin...

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Claimng they were sold


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You know the lyric, now behold the beholder.

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Does anyone understand this nonsense that Goldin is auctioning?

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx
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Does anyone understand this nonsense that Goldin is auctioning?

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx
Wtf?
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Does anyone understand this nonsense that Goldin is auctioning?

https://goldinauctions.com/Honus_Wag...LOT118039.aspx

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Brian (sorry, came across this photo on the GA website, and felt compelled to resurrect this thread from the dead)
The lyric has changed from "Ken Goldin, Ken Goldin, look at the cards that he's holdin'" to:

"Ken Goldin, Ken Goldin, look at the the NFT Pepe the Frog Wagner he's not holdin'".

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They didn't need to. Probably dumped a bunch of them at 400-600.

And my guess is these will come down even more.
Putting aside for the moment a good likelihood that there was price manipulation of some sort with these -

Current PSA 10 population = 318
Current PSA 9 population = 2787
Total current PSA population = 21,791

The highest sale as of January 2020 (1.5 years ago) was under 40K

There have been 61 PSA 10 sales (according to PSA auction database) since January 2020 (I did not look for repeat sales on the same certs)

There would in theory need to be 319 people willing to pay "market" price to maintain a particular value - I suspect we will see this card come down considerably more.
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Howard yeah it's going to keep falling towards its "natural" level I think. A lot of folks out there who drastically overpaid, I think, believing the world was somehow very different now. We've seen this film before.
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in talking to long time hobby friend(s) the last year or so while watching this crazy run up on many cards...the fleer jordan rookie was the one card mentioned the most as so common the prices would most definitely come plummeting back to earth.

With all the big $$$$$$ that has supposedly entered the hobby in the last year...investor athletes...mark cuban...the goldin tv deal, etc...it will be interesting to see what happens to the hobby in the next few years. One thing for sure...to me...is the window has closed atleast for now on the cazy easy money in the hobby...and there will be bunches of pissed off bag holders in the future who went crazy over modern...common cards.
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Here's the state of the hobby.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22449097676...p2047675.l2557

Compare to two on Jan. 31 in Goldin at 738K each.

Only a drop of 557K or whatever.

Let's spin this one, shall we?

Or did we (some of we) just get fooled yet again by sales talk, manipulation, and fraud?

God D@mn! I'd hate to be one of the two that paid 738K in Jan. right now.



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God D@mn! I'd hate to be one of the two that paid 738K in Jan. right now.



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I would like to be one, I am guessing they bought them in order to create a false price to sell their inventory of others for much higher than they otherwise could have. Just a guess of course. Assuming they actually bought them, that is, which I'm willing to do.
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I would like to be one, I am guessing they bought them in order to create a false price to sell their inventory of others for much higher than they otherwise could have. Just a guess of course. Assuming they actually bought them, that is, which I'm willing to do.
Are you suggesting there were two people who did this at the same time in the same auction? Or are you saying you'd like to be one of them because that is something that you would've done and you wish you had been one of the smart guys who did it?
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I am suggesting your reaction to feel badly for the winner or winners may be wrong.
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You said you'd like to have been one of the buyers so I was just trying to find out why.

It's true I may be wrong in feeling bad for the buyers, but I still do and think they got screwed.



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You said you'd like to have been one of the buyers so I was just trying to find out why.

It's true I may be wrong in feeling bad for the buyers, but I still do and think they got screwed.



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It was rhetorical, a contrast to you saying you would hate to be them.
I could be wrong too, but I guess they made out just fine.
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Here's the state of the hobby.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22449097676...p2047675.l2557

Compare to two on Jan. 31 in Goldin at 738K each.

Only a drop of 557K or whatever.

Let's spin this one, shall we?

Or did we (some of we) just get fooled yet again by sales talk, manipulation, and fraud?
Gotta love PWCC and its 3300 shipping to Canada for that Item. I thought the usual 45 shipping for a 10 dolalr card from them was bad....
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Gotta love PWCC and its 3300 shipping to Canada for that Item. I thought the usual 45 shipping for a 10 dolalr card from them was bad....
Or you could let them lock it up for you in their vault for no shipping lol
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Here's the state of the hobby.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22449097676...p2047675.l2557

Compare to two on Jan. 31 in Goldin at 738K each.

Only a drop of 557K or whatever.

Let's spin this one, shall we?

Or did we (some of we) just get fooled yet again by sales talk, manipulation, and fraud?
Anyone else notice the card/listing has now been removed? (at least for me)
Truthfully, I don't ever recall a listing being removed so soon but maybe it's nothing?
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Anyone else notice the card/listing has now been removed? (at least for me)
Truthfully, I don't ever recall a listing being removed so soon but maybe it's nothing?
Yeah I thought they stayed up for 90 days or something. Maybe Brentsy has wondrous magical powers.
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Yeah I thought they stayed up for 90 days or something. Maybe Brentsy has wondrous magical powers.
It has been vanished from ebay and PWCC's site however PSA logged it in:

https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...98018093662774. Also showing in VCP and the buyer's id is j***a.
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Golly...

He is talking about his industry... not about my hobby.

He's talking about making money on cards... I like collecting cards from players of days gone by, making money on them isn't important.

He wants new money buying cards, and then more new money buying cards and memorabilia, so everything is always costing more and more.

And he seems to think that if he says something twice, that it's more believable. OR true. It is more believable. It is true. He is telling his truth, he told it twice. Twice!

It's nuts. Pardon me while I have a sip of bottled water.
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