Let's talk about Hall of Fame candidates who have been "neglected"

Peter_Spaeth · #1 07-06-2021, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D.

I think being likable helps...that's why Pettite gets some HOF love and some others don't.

On Ortiz...I just don't put "leaked positive for something on an anonymous test before there was real testing" in the same category as "positive test after when testing became a thing".

Plus, of note...all the "good" part of Ortiz's career came AFTER testing was put in place.

Look at his HR totals up to age 26.

https://sports.cbslocal.com/2016/05/...eroid-red-sox/

Mike D. · #2 07-06-2021, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Look at his HR totals up to age 26.

https://sports.cbslocal.com/2016/05/...eroid-red-sox/

Right, and if steroids were something you took and you became good at baseball your entire career, it'd be concerning. But since they don't work that way, I see it as "the good part of his career came when testing was in place, and he never tested positive for anything".

I mean, I know they tested "randomly", but you know guys like Ortiz and the other HR guys got tested more than the 160 pound utility infielders.

Now Manny...don't get me started on that sad story.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 07-06-2021, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D.

Right, and if steroids were something you took and you became good at baseball your entire career, it'd be concerning. But since they don't work that way, I see it as "the good part of his career came when testing was in place, and he never tested positive for anything".

I mean, I know they tested "randomly", but you know guys like Ortiz and the other HR guys got tested more than the 160 pound utility infielders.

Now Manny...don't get me started on that sad story.

3 percent of his career offensive output through age 26. Doesn't look good.

Mike D. · #4 07-06-2021, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

3 percent of his career offensive output through age 26. Doesn't look good.

I see that...but are we to assume he started using steroids and just never got caught?

I wish whatever NY writer leaked that he was on the list had the decency to let us know what he tested positive for.

Ricky · #5 07-06-2021, 08:50 PM

Big Papi looks the same today as he did when he played, unlike say McGwire, who looks like he shrunk.

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