Nat Turner new CEO at CLCT

Peter_Spaeth · #1 07-16-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Well...seeing as how the company is private now, if you never tendered your stock when they were buying it, it is worthless now.

He didn't keep his stock he got cashed out in the buyout with everyone else.

sportscardpete · #2 07-17-2021, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He didn't keep his stock he got cashed out in the buyout with everyone else.

Unless they kept him around with an earnout

Eric72 · #3 07-17-2021, 09:39 AM

Don�t know how to feel about this yet.

The devil you know�

samosa4u · #4 07-17-2021, 02:10 PM

Joe Orlando was the face of the brand for a long time. It's hard to picture a PSA without him. He received a lot of criticism during the Slabgate scandal, and people had the right to be upset, however, the way he behaved was the way any CEO would have behaved. He had to protect the brand, and he sure did a damn good job. How many people are talking about the scandal now?

Nat has many qualities most men only dream of having. I'm pretty sure he is going to do a fantastic job. He is getting praised a lot for responding quickly to others, but he just started, guys! Joe had to do this for twenty years! For twenty years he got angry phone calls, threatening emails, confronted by muscular American dudes who were angry because their buddies got good grades and they didn't. That's some pretty rough shit.

Bobbycee · #5 07-17-2021, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Joe Orlando was the face of the brand for a long time. It's hard to picture a PSA without him. He received a lot of criticism during the Slabgate scandal, and people had the right to be upset, however, the way he behaved was the way any CEO would have behaved. He had to protect the brand, and he sure did a damn good job. How many people are talking about the scandal now?

Nat has many qualities most men only dream of having. I'm pretty sure he is going to do a fantastic job. He is getting praised a lot for responding quickly to others, but he just started, guys! Joe had to do this for twenty years! For twenty years he got angry phone calls, threatening emails, confronted by muscular American dudes who were angry because their buddies got good grades and they didn't. That's some pretty rough shit.

"That's some pretty rough shit" Really? Sounds like you were hired to do his Biography. Let's not pretend this guy isn't stained with all the bullshit PSA pulled over the years. Yeah, he did a good job spinning damage control. Not a quality I admire. Complicit in alot of garbage. Never get cheated!

edhans · #6 07-17-2021, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Joe Orlando was the face of the brand for a long time. It's hard to picture a PSA without him. He received a lot of criticism during the Slabgate scandal, and people had the right to be upset, however, the way he behaved was the way any CEO would have behaved. He had to protect the brand, and he sure did a damn good job. How many people are talking about the scandal now?

Nat has many qualities most men only dream of having. I'm pretty sure he is going to do a fantastic job. He is getting praised a lot for responding quickly to others, but he just started, guys! Joe had to do this for twenty years! For twenty years he got angry phone calls, threatening emails, confronted by muscular American dudes who were angry because their buddies got good grades and they didn't. That's some pretty rough shit.

How about acknowledging the problem and doing something to fix it, instead of pretending it didn't exist.

samosa4u · #7 07-17-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by edhans

How about acknowledging the problem and doing something to fix it, instead of pretending it didn't exist.

Fix it? How? There are guys out there who are trimming over-sized cards down to the correct size. Small wrinkles are being pressed and stains are being soaked out. By the way, I know that soaking is totally acceptable on this forum and has been discussed very openly, although it's a big no-no on Blowout. Anyhow, some of this work is nearly impossible to catch. Sure, Joe could have discussed this issue instead of just saying "we aren't perfect," but otherwise I don't think he could have done much. What was he going to say to the big shareholders? Umm, guys, let's do a major recall and issue five billion in refunds, cool? They would have thrown him out of the window!

Peter_Spaeth · #8 07-17-2021, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Fix it? How? There are guys out there who are trimming over-sized cards down to the correct size. Small wrinkles are being pressed and stains are being soaked out. By the way, I know that soaking is totally acceptable on this forum and has been discussed very openly, although it's a big no-no on Blowout. Anyhow, some of this work is nearly impossible to catch. Sure, Joe could have discussed this issue instead of just saying "we aren't perfect," but otherwise I don't think he could have done much. What was he going to say to the big shareholders? Umm, guys, let's do a major recall and issue five billion in refunds, cool? They would have thrown him out of the window!

Once you get decades deep into this, it really is impossible to fix in any systematic way. This is why I think all these guys saying oh give Nat Turner a chance are just engaging in wishful thinking. I mean what's he going to do, pull a disco inferno and "burn that mother down"?

perezfan · #9 07-17-2021, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u

Fix it? How? There are guys out there who are trimming over-sized cards down to the correct size. Small wrinkles are being pressed and stains are being soaked out. By the way, I know that soaking is totally acceptable on this forum and has been discussed very openly, although it's a big no-no on Blowout. Anyhow, some of this work is nearly impossible to catch. Sure, Joe could have discussed this issue instead of just saying "we aren't perfect," but otherwise I don't think he could have done much. What was he going to say to the big shareholders? Umm, guys, let's do a major recall and issue five billion in refunds, cool? They would have thrown him out of the window!

Yeah, some of the work is near-impossible to catch. But if you spent any time at all going over the many BO threads exposing this garbage, you'd see that most of these alterations could have been caught with a simple blacklight and/or ruler. Many could've been spotted by a complete novice.

Then there's the issue of PSA continually accepting submissions from known card doctors (for years).

Then there's the favorable treatment for "preferred" submitters.

Then there's that pesky so-called guarantee that PSA seemed to have an aversion to honoring.

Then there's the PSA Chat Forum, who bans and/or censors you for having a dissenting opinion or simply for trying to raise an honest discussion.

All of this happened under Joe's watch. I could go on, but I'm sure the PSA Apologists would find a way to dispute all of these matters, as would a good chunk of the Flippers who are consumed with protecting their investments.

That said.... I hope Nat is successful, and able to clean things up at PSA. He seems like a good guy, and (judging by his first big move) it appears he's off to a good start!

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