ebay finds that PWCC engaged in shill bidding?

[Jersey City Giants]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

Atleast they will be gone from eBay.

can't see their own platform working nearly as well for them, especially since it was confirmed to all of us that they were shilling. I won't be bidding anymore for sure.

PS - Just got my 1921 Exhibit from you on ebay, many thanks.

[Nunzio11]

Originally Posted by Jersey City Giants

can't see their own platform working nearly as well for them, especially since it was confirmed to all of us that they were shilling. I won't be bidding anymore for sure.

PS - Just got my 1921 Exhibit from you on ebay, many thanks.

That was my thought. I'm sure this is not the publicity and fanfare PWCC was looking for when launching their own platform. Imagine the shenanigans that will go on when bidders no longer have the guise of Ebay protection to fall back on if they feel there were wronged by unethical practices.

[Republicaninmass]

As the housing bubble inflated and people got in over their head Congress was involved in "steroids in baseball"


This time, maybe they will go after sportscards as a nice distraction.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Nunzio11

That was my thought. I'm sure this is not the publicity and fanfare PWCC was looking for when launching their own platform. Imagine the shenanigans that will go on when bidders no longer have the guise of Ebay protection to fall back on if they feel there were wronged by unethical practices.

This was my first thought. The inmates running the asylum. It’s hard to believe that shilling isn’t so ingrained in the culture there they could have a really hard time running a legit AH, even if they wanted to. The few things I ever bought from them years ago were things I just stumbled upon while browsing Ebay. I can’t see myself ever visiting their site and I doubt I’m the only one.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by conor912

This was my first thought. The inmates running the asylum. It’s hard to believe that shilling isn’t so ingrained in the culture there they could have a really hard time running a legit AH, even if they wanted to. The few things I ever bought from them years ago were things I just stumbled upon while browsing Ebay. I can’t see myself ever visiting their site and I doubt I’m the only one.

Anyone who does frequent their site will get exactly what they deserve. I personally will stick with reputable and ethical sources such as LOTG, REA and Hakes.

I believe this sudden sweeping move by eBay was done in an effort to minimize its liability (and culpability) and to distance themselves from PWCC, who is under investigation. Perhaps the FBI had a hand in expediting this drastic action. Based on what we learned from Mastro, it's apparently easier/preferable for Law Enforcement to issue indictments on shill bidding than fraud from card alteration (although I wish they could bring charges for both).

Simply put... Law Enforcement's ability to prove shill bidding (from obtained records) is probably much more cut and dried than proving fraud and criminal intent to deceive.

[maniac_73]

In just happy I dont have to sort through PWCC auctions anymore to find ones at a real price and dont have insane shipping costs to Canada.