Thoughts on Crossing '50 Robinson from BVG to SGC

[p1ayba11]

Thanks again for all the great insights. So here's what I ended up doing. I decided to take the risk of cracking out of the BVG and submitted it to SGC with no minimum grade. As you can see from the before and after pics attached, SGC graded it a 4. Of course, wish higher but the 4 is pretty much where many of you had pegged it as the consensus was that the BVG 5.5 was overly generous. I would have been ecstatic had it come back a 5. To me, it just shows better in the SGC holder. I'd also rather have someone say "nice 4" than as with the BVG, look at it and wonder "how did it ever get a 5.5?" Not worried about resale here as it will be part of my collection and I'll be happier showing it now than I was before. I guess a good ending and just wanted to share the outcome with all of you. Any thoughts?

[toledo_mudhen]

There's a reason why Beckett comes in 3rd on most everyone's grader of choice.

Does look great in the SGC slab.

What was your turnaround time with SGC?

[jchcollins]

I would be very happy w/ that crossover; congrats!

There is nothing inherently wrong w/ BVG, they just grade raw vintage about like I did in 1989. Especially with midgrade and lower, they aren't on the same script that PSA and SGC follow today. That being said, there are still potential deals to be found with Beckett if you realize that.

But that Robinson is more accurately graded and looks better in the tux. Sweet card again - enjoy.

[ALBB]

Id cross it, why not

[p1ayba11]

I shipped priority mail to SGC on 8/16 and received it back 8/24 so had super turnaround!

[maniac_73]

Looks great in the SGC holder and I agree that an SGC 4 holds more weight than a BVG 5.5

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by maniac_73

Looks great in the SGC holder and I agree that an SGC 4 holds more weight than a BVG 5.5

Agreed, lucky it wasnt trimmed

[Gr8Beldini]

Originally Posted by p1ayba11

Thanks again for all the great insights. So here's what I ended up doing. I decided to take the risk of cracking out of the BVG and submitted it to SGC with no minimum grade. As you can see from the before and after pics attached, SGC graded it a 4.

Wondering out loud... if put up for auction, which of the two would fetch the higher bid? It's gotta be the Beckett 5.5... right?

[IgnatiusJReilly]

Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini

Wondering out loud... if put up for auction, which of the two would fetch the higher bid? It's gotta be the Beckett 5.5... right?

I actually think the SGC would go a bit higher. I mentally deduct 2 full points from BVG to compare to PSA or SGC (maybe 1.5 for SGC). Also, I very rarely bid on BVG. You’ll get a lot more interested buyers with SGC or PSA. Just my opinion.


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[Kutcher55]

Cool thread. Congrats on the cross over. It looks nice in the SGC holder. I have always used the +1 rule on BVG as opposed to PSA or SGC in terms of relative grading toughness. If I had to take the over or under on that assumption in terms of toughness as well as resale value, I would take the over and call it 1.25. Which suggests that I don’t think there would be any resale value for the SGC 4 as opposed to the BVG 5.5. It’s debatable but if you’re asking if you increased the value of this card with the crossover I would opine respectfully that no you didn’t.

That all said, as a collector it seems to fit what you are after. I happen to own 4 BVG slabs. Everything else is PSA or SGC or raw. My BVGs are: Bob Gibson RC 5.5 that I think could cross to a 5 due to the centering and sub grades. Al Kaline RC in a 5 that wouldn’t cross to better than a 4 IMO. The other two slabs are McCovey RC 4.5 and Palmer RC 4. Neither is worth the bother to cross. In fact I doubt I wold ever cross any of them. BVG slabs are like fort knox to crack open aren’t they?