New member cuban cards

Roland 49 · #1 08-28-2021, 06:28 PM

Travis you commented that you want me to show Bombin Pedroso, now you will see his card from the Romeo and Juliet collection that I scanned a few years ago. Have you seen it?

Kenny Cole · #2 08-29-2021, 10:43 PM

pedroso

Leon · #3 08-30-2021, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Travis you commented that you want me to show Bombin Pedroso, now you will see his card from the Romeo and Juliet collection that I scanned a few years ago. Have you seen it?

I have never seen many of these cards you are showing, Roland. Thanks again for your contributions...I really don't have much to contribute but have always liked this postcard... It says Mexico on the back but I was under the assumption it was Cuban when I bought it. I like the action scene regardless...

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Roland 49 · #4 08-30-2021, 05:35 PM

Leon, I did not know that photo, I also like that scene at home, the face of the player is not well seen but maybe it is Basilio (Brujo) Rosell, he belongs to the Hall of Fame of Mexico and was an excellent Pitcher, there is a Anecdote that when he was 44 years old they put him to pinch hit and to everyone's amazement he hit hit and won the game 2x1, in the comment of the photo you show it says in Spanish "showing off youth, jump ...." I do not know the translation if you understand, he was born in Matanzas Cuba in 1902, I repeat that perhaps he is El Brujo Rosell because the photo is from 1945 and his age would be 43 or 44 years old, the juice for that team from Mexico until 1947.

Roland 49 · #5 08-31-2021, 11:17 AM

Kenny, you have shown two excellent Bombin Pedroso cards, I consider it very positive for everyone, that others who see this thread show cards and photos of Pedroso

Roland 49 · #6 09-01-2021, 02:17 PM

In the photo we see Martin Dihigo doing a demonstration of mastery of the ball, observe: Limonar Martinez, Patato Pascual, Zabala, Varona and others.

Roland 49 · #7 09-02-2021, 05:26 PM

From the American Series in La Tropical the Boston player Joe Cronin

Roland 49 · #8 09-03-2021, 12:28 PM

Travis, now you will see a photo of my collection that I edit at the top where we see Bombin Pedroso with Cristobal Torriente in the Cuban Star uniform.

aljurgela · #9 02-22-2022, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roland 49

Travis you commented that you want me to show Bombin Pedroso, now you will see his card from the Romeo and Juliet collection that I scanned a few years ago. Have you seen it?

of Bombin

aljurgela · #10 02-22-2022, 05:02 PM

here are a couple that I do not recall seeing... also one of my favorite photos of all time is of him... will try and track it down

aljurgela · #11 02-22-2022, 05:03 PM

Here is the photo... it is cabinet size....

Roland 49 · #12 02-24-2022, 06:51 PM

Al, you show very good Mi�oso cards, now the Mi�oso card #68 from the Caramelos Stadium collection, this is one of the versions but there is another, do you have them both?

ElCabron · #13 03-05-2022, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aljurgela

here are a couple that I do not recall seeing... also one of my favorite photos of all time is of him... will try and track it down

Al, unfortunately, that 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo Mi�oso should never have been graded as it was cut from a sheet within the past few years. Both PSA and SGC are guilty of grading cards cut from these sheets. If you look at the pop reports from both companies, you'll find the normal grades for Caramelo Deportivo cards. Ones, Twos, maybe a Three if it's high-grade. And then you'll see cards like this Mi�oso in a 6, which does not exist in either year of Caramelo Deportivo cards.

Here is what happened: A group of uncut sheets, maybe as many as 10(?) somehow survived all these years without being destroyed. They were meant to be destroyed because the print on the back was extremely faded and light, and therefore not worthy of being cut into cards and distributed. But some Cuban hero saved them! And that's why so many "high-grade" 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo cards survive to this day. I know of at least two complete sheets that are still intact. I have one, and another collector has one. But each sheet has 3 Martin Dihigos, 3 Ray Dandridges, and 3 Orestes "Minnie" Mi�osos. The temptation proved to be too much much for some greedy scammers who cut these sheets up and sent the cards in to grading companies. Any high-grade 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo card will have this extremely light back. The sheets made their way to the U.S. and were cut up and sent in to the grading companies, who graded them without question, for some reason. Any grading company could contact me at any time without every having to worry about compensation. I've never taken a single dollar to consult with a grading company or any kind of authentication agency. But they didn't. And they should all know that by now.

Al, can you post a scan of the back of that Mi�oso? I would bet my life that it is extremely light and barely legible. Especially compared to a legit 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo card.

The back should look like this:

Roland 49 · #14 03-07-2022, 11:27 AM

I was reading Ryan's comment, and he's right, I agree with him, but I'll give my opinion, in the late 80s or early 90s, I bought 10 sheets of this collection, 9 were complete and one was cropped because they glued some to an empty album, of the 9 complete sheets I separated the best for my collection, the back had the clearest impression, but not all were the same, some of the ink could be seen quite well, those 8 remaining through the years I went out of them, I told everyone not to cut them, because from my point of view they are rarities, and I consider that they have a higher price, but each person does what they want with their own, in the postcards of the United States they have companies that they evaluate and I consider this very correct and also the Cuban ones, but they have brought me Cuban postcards that are evaluated with their letter and number, and I have not agreed, because I have my evaluation system that is not so complicated and is most effective, and none of those who evaluate these cards in those companies know what I know, not one of them, not all together, and they have brought me original postcards that they have rejected for not knowing them, now I show a photo of one of the pages of my catalog where you will see the page that shows that sheet and a photo I took of one of the sheets from behind, but the most important thing is that they are all original cards with an almost perfect state of conservation, that is my opinion.

Roland 49 · #15 03-13-2022, 10:41 PM

Photos magazine with Monte Irvin on the cover.

aljurgela · #16 03-14-2022, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCabron

Al, unfortunately, that 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo Mi�oso should never have been graded as it was cut from a sheet within the past few years. Both PSA and SGC are guilty of grading cards cut from these sheets. If you look at the pop reports from both companies, you'll find the normal grades for Caramelo Deportivo cards. Ones, Twos, maybe a Three if it's high-grade. And then you'll see cards like this Mi�oso in a 6, which does not exist in either year of Caramelo Deportivo cards.

Here is what happened: A group of uncut sheets, maybe as many as 10(?) somehow survived all these years without being destroyed. They were meant to be destroyed because the print on the back was extremely faded and light, and therefore not worthy of being cut into cards and distributed. But some Cuban hero saved them! And that's why so many "high-grade" 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo cards survive to this day. I know of at least two complete sheets that are still intact. I have one, and another collector has one. But each sheet has 3 Martin Dihigos, 3 Ray Dandridges, and 3 Orestes "Minnie" Mi�osos. The temptation proved to be too much much for some greedy scammers who cut these sheets up and sent the cards in to grading companies. Any high-grade 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo card will have this extremely light back. The sheets made their way to the U.S. and were cut up and sent in to the grading companies, who graded them without question, for some reason. Any grading company could contact me at any time without every having to worry about compensation. I've never taken a single dollar to consult with a grading company or any kind of authentication agency. But they didn't. And they should all know that by now.

Al, can you post a scan of the back of that Mi�oso? I would bet my life that it is extremely light and barely legible. Especially compared to a legit 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo card.

The back should look like this:

very light... yes.... PSA holder now

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