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Peter_Spaeth · #1 08-28-2021, 08:30 PM

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His power fell off his last 2 years but he still hit .297 (on 617 AB) and .288 (382 AB.) So that is still pretty productive.

9 total HR for the two seasons though. But who knows, he wasn't so old he couldn't have had a bit of a resurgence. Just a horrible tragedy.

Mark17 · #2 08-28-2021, 08:40 PM

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9 total HR for the two seasons though. But who knows, he wasn't so old he couldn't have had a bit of a resurgence.

I'm thinking his excellent defense and close to .300 average for a few more years would have to help him. He also hit .320 with 7 RBI in the 1978 World Series (and .278 with a HR in the Championship Series.) That adds, not subtracts.

Clemente's death was inspirational and elevated him. The Bostock, Agganis, Piccolo, and Hubbs deaths were tragic, and I think the pathos and their unrealized potential balance against each other somewhat.

But Munson's death was caused by him flying a plane that was more powerful than he was used to.... and not to be too judgemental of a guy who lost his life, he died because he made a really bad decision. So his early death adds nothing in my opinion, but subtracts a lot.

Yoda · #3 08-28-2021, 09:03 PM

Leon, thank you. I am retiring to my mouse hole and quietly remove my foot from my mouth. Tomorrow promises to be a better day.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 08-28-2021, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

I'm thinking his excellent defense and close to .300 average for a few more years would have to help him. He also hit .320 with 7 RBI in the 1978 World Series (and .278 with a HR in the Championship Series.) That adds, not subtracts.

Clemente's death was inspirational and elevated him. The Bostock, Agganis, Piccolo, and Hubbs deaths were tragic, and I think the pathos and their unrealized potential balance against each other somewhat.

But Munson's death was caused by him flying a plane that was more powerful than he was used to.... and not to be too judgemental of a guy who lost his life, he died because he made a really bad decision. So his early death adds nothing in my opinion, but subtracts a lot.

Fair enough. Do you think he should be in the Hall?

Mark17 · #5 08-28-2021, 09:13 PM

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Fair enough. Do you think he should be in the Hall?

Not before Freehan.... and probably not at all.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 08-28-2021, 09:17 PM

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Not before Freehan.... and probably not at all.

I think that's right, although I wouldn't mind seeing him in either.