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Old 09-04-2021, 03:56 PM
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Jonathan, thank you very much for those important contributions and well wishes. De Bost gave me a lot of problems, as at first I thought he was wearing glasses. But after sharpening it up and looking very closely, he's not wearing glasses. His eyes are mostly shut. As with some of the other gentlemen, the blurring of the stereoview and outdoor lighting/shadows make it appear that they have wrinkles where there aren't any. Niebuhr was also very difficult, as he does look younger than the rest. As I said above, I thought at one point that it could be Harry Wright. I can still be convinced of that, but his features match up very well with Niebuhr. In fact, I believe that each of them line up very well when facial features are compared. Here's a side-by-side with an older Doc Adams, which I think is even more convincing.

Corey, I'm glad you were able to see this again after I've researched it further and made it easier to see and get more accurate comparisons. Math is not my forte, but at least the odds are above 50%.
Guy on the right looks a little like Fidel Castro. Lol
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Snowman, we can't see Avery from behind, so we can't tell how full his hair is. On the front, it definitely looks as though there's some degree of loss and a comb-over going on.
David, perhaps you can point to some specific features that you don't think match up.
Joe, well, Castro was a baseball player in his younger days. But check out the comparison with the older Adams that I posted in this thread.
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Out of curiosity, can you run the facial match software using subjects from your photo against each of the subjects from the 1862 photo? I'm curious to see what match percentages it gives you for the people who are clearly not matches.
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Snowman, ask and ye shall receive. As you can see, Adams comes back at 93% and from the same person. But when compared with Avery he's at 39% and from different persons, and with Niebuhr he gets 35% and from different persons.
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Snowman, ask and ye shall receive. As you can see, Adams comes back at 93% and from the same person. But when compared with Avery he's at 39% and from different persons, and with Niebuhr he gets 35% and from different persons.
Technology is amazing what it can do and from a picture over 150 years old

Wow
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Scott, in the 1862 pic, many of them weren't even on the team anymore. Nobody knows for sure why that particular photo was assembled. I can't say for sure why it would be those six in mine, but I don't think my speculation is unreasonable, as that number is about right for the executives and directors.

Jeff, it sure is!
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There are glaring non-matches, and lack of glaring non-matches does not an identification make.

You are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It's a nice original antique photo of unknown people, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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Snowman, we can't see Avery from behind, so we can't tell how full his hair is. On the front, it definitely looks as though there's some degree of loss and a comb-over going on.
David, perhaps you can point to some specific features that you don't think match up.
Joe, well, Castro was a baseball player in his younger days. But check out the comparison with the older Adams that I posted in this thread.
I googled Doc Adams photo, there are similarities to the photos I joked about Castro. That’s all I can contribute. Joe
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