Athletes who won�t signs specific card

Topps206 · #1 09-06-2021, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Yo

As someone pointed out Bo Jackson, he won�t sign the famous picture of him with his shirt off (appears on the Score card) because of a copyright issue

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There�s a bunch of stuff that Bo Jackson won�t sign, such as Bucs items or items signed by Cam Newton and Pat Sullivan. I don�t think he�ll sign Heisman items either.

Joecoco · #2 09-06-2021, 09:19 PM

Was there a time in the 1980s when certain players would not sign any Topps cards because of the affiliation with Garbage Pail Kids?

packs · #3 09-07-2021, 12:51 PM

I'm really not a fan of these guys who choose not to sign a particular card because of some built in belief that in the future their family will be able to cash in. You're denying real-time collectors the satisfaction of completing their sets for no logical reason. If you're a fringe guy like Steve Rodriguez, who is really going to be chasing your 1995 UD card?

The 1987 Topps set is iconic so I guess there is some built-in desirability from Ricky Wright's perspective, but not really. Even with a huge iconic set like the 87 Topps set there are still only going to be a handful of people who care to have every card signed. Stop the nonsense already.

Topps206 · #4 09-07-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I'm really not a fan of these guys who choose not to sign a particular card because of some built in belief that in the future their family will be able to cash in. You're denying real-time collectors the satisfaction of completing their sets for no logical reason. If you're a fringe guy like Steve Rodriguez, who is really going to be chasing your 1995 UD card?

The 1987 Topps set is iconic so I guess there is some built-in desirability from Ricky Wright's perspective, but not really. Even with a huge iconic set like the 87 Topps set there are still only going to be a handful of people who care to have every card signed. Stop the nonsense already.

Honestly, in my opinion, that’s one way for someone like Ricky Wright to be more well known. A player lost to MLB history is more well known to some, in my opinion, for notoriously not signing his 1987 Topps than he would be if he just signed like many other former players do. Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but some people are still talking about him for more than 30 years later. That’s one way to stand out.

packs · #5 09-07-2021, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206

Honestly, in my opinion, that�s one way for someone like Ricky Wright to be more well known. A player lost to MLB history is more well known to some, in my opinion, for notoriously not signing his 1987 Topps than he would be if he just signed like many other former players do. Maybe I�m reading too much into it, but some people are still talking about him for more than 40 years later. That�s one way to stand out.

True there is the infamy vs anonymity angle. I think a fair caveat for any of these guys would be if a collector can show them that they have every other card signed in the set but theirs, it should prove they aren't in it for the money and they should be rewarded with a signed card.

Republicaninmass · #6 09-07-2021, 06:31 PM

I believe Goose goslin wont sign his HOF plaque on the front. He thought it was a hideous rendition, or so the rumor goes

pclpads · #7 09-14-2021, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I believe Goose goslin wont sign his HOF plaque on the front. He thought it was a hideous rendition, or so the rumor goes

Goose Goslin has been dead for 50 years. Did you mean Goose Gossage?
Too many Gooses on the looses to keep track of them all.

dgo71 · #8 09-07-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

If you're a fringe guy like Steve Rodriguez, who is really going to be chasing your 1995 UD card?

The way he explained it was he wanted to do something special for his mom and it wasn't intended to be a slight towards set collectors. I doubt it had anything to do with a perceived big payday down the road.

todeen · #9 09-07-2021, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I'm really not a fan of these guys who choose not to sign a particular card because of some built in belief that in the future their family will be able to cash in. You're denying real-time collectors the satisfaction of completing their sets for no logical reason. If you're a fringe guy like Steve Rodriguez, who is really going to be chasing your 1995 UD card?

The 1987 Topps set is iconic so I guess there is some built-in desirability from Ricky Wright's perspective, but not really. Even with a huge iconic set like the 87 Topps set there are still only going to be a handful of people who care to have every card signed. Stop the nonsense already.

Why is 1987 Topps iconic? Just the number of big name stars included? I don't really like the wood border.

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Bpm0014 · #10 09-07-2021, 09:30 PM

1986 fleer Jordan

Not sure if he will.only.sign UD cards, but he wont sign the 86 fleer

Not true. I had access to him for a couple years and he signed one for me.

sbfinley · #11 09-08-2021, 12:00 AM

Like the OP stated, there are a handful of players who wouldn't/won't sign SSPC cards because they weren't compensated. I don't have a full list, but it's definitely a handful.

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Originally Posted by Bpm0014

1986 fleer Jordan

Not sure if he will.only.sign UD cards, but he wont sign the 86 fleer

Not true. I had access to him for a couple years and he signed one for me.

I think this belief stems from the rule that prevented attendees of his basketball fantasy camps from bringing Fleer cards as their item to get signed. Realistically for the longest time that was the best way to get a specific item signed. He doesn't do paid signings, he's not approachable in public, and anything he does sign under contract is UD related. I'd bet 90% of the non-rookie Fleer, Hopps, Topps etc signed cards I've seen date to his time with the Barons as that was the one time he was great with larger groups. Most of the signed RC's I see are more modern signatures probably garnered at golf tournaments, the MGM, or the Arena where small groups get access to him.

Here's some tough signed cards not mentioned yet to get from living signers. Sadly most aren't mine. I just track them as I see them.

Someone stated Steve Garvey won't sign his 1982 Fleer card. I've seen one I felt was authentic then a couple years ago someone picked up a raw example on eBay and was able to get it in a PSA/DNA holder. I didn't fell comfortable with the card though. At one time I was working on that set signed and knew I probably get the Garvey so I got creative. I eventually broke up that near set, but I kept my Frakengarvey.

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Then of course, there is the living legend himself....

mrreality68 · #12 09-08-2021, 07:15 AM

Interesting thread and some interesting reasons why many players will not sign specific cards but will sign others

Great THread

jakebeckleyoldeagleeye · #13 09-08-2021, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley

Like the OP stated, there are a handful of players who wouldn't/won't sign SSPC cards because they weren't compensated. I don't have a full list, but it's definitely a handful.

I think this belief stems from the rule that prevented attendees of his basketball fantasy camps from bringing Fleer cards as their item to get signed. Realistically for the longest time that was the best way to get a specific item signed. He doesn't do paid signings, he's not approachable in public, and anything he does sign under contract is UD related. I'd bet 90% of the non-rookie Fleer, Hopps, Topps etc signed cards I've seen date to his time with the Barons as that was the one time he was great with larger groups. Most of the signed RC's I see are more modern signatures probably garnered at golf tournaments, the MGM, or the Arena where small groups get access to him.

Here's some tough signed cards not mentioned yet to get from living signers. Sadly most aren't mine. I just track them as I see them.

Someone stated Steve Garvey won't sign his 1982 Fleer card. I've seen one I felt was authentic then a couple years ago someone picked up a raw example on eBay and was able to get it in a PSA/DNA holder. I didn't fell comfortable with the card though. At one time I was working on that set signed and knew I probably get the Garvey so I got creative. I eventually broke up that near set, but I kept my Frakengarvey.

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Then of course, there is the living legend himself....

I was able to get Leonard Garcia to sign the 1969 Rodriquez. I think they had an agreement though that they wouldn't sign it if the other already had.

packs · #14 09-08-2021, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by todeen

Why is 1987 Topps iconic? Just the number of big name stars included? I don't really like the wood border.

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I honestly don't know because I think the design is crappy too. But of all of the complete signed sets I've heard people go after it's one of the most popular.

sreader3 · #15 09-08-2021, 01:37 PM

I think there is one Ron Kittle won�t sign. Can�t remember which one. Overall good guy and signer.

dgo71 · #16 09-08-2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sreader3

I think there is one Ron Kittle won�t sign. Can�t remember which one. Overall good guy and signer.

1984 Topps, but he does sign the card with a charitable donation. I think it's $25.

whitehse · #17 09-18-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sreader3

I think there is one Ron Kittle won’t sign. Can’t remember which one. Overall good guy and signer.

It was his 1984 Topps card. I had him as an autograph guest at a show I was promoting in the 90's and had to put in all the advertising that he was NOT signing the '84 Topps card.

MooseDog · #18 09-08-2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by packs

I honestly don't know because I think the design is crappy too. But of all of the complete signed sets I've heard people go after it's one of the most popular.

I don't chase the set myself but I think one of the appeal points is that the set is heavy with portraits and close up shots. Whatever you think of the design they do look very nice with signatures on them. Plus it is dirt cheap to find unsigned cards, even stars.

egri · #19 09-08-2021, 04:16 PM

The photography is great and signatures generally show up well. That being said, the wood borders have always looked very dated to me. I didn't like them on the 1987 Topps, or in 1962, or when Bowman used them in 1955.

dgo71 · #20 09-07-2021, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Joecoco

Was there a time in the 1980s when certain players would not sign any Topps cards because of the affiliation with Garbage Pail Kids?

I seem to remember hearing Tom Herr did that, but that's definitely no longer the case with him. There may have been others, I believe it was mostly religious guys who took issue with the Garbage Pail Kids.

JustinD · #21 03-31-2022, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dgo71

I seem to remember hearing Tom Herr did that, but that's definitely no longer the case with him. There may have been others, I believe it was mostly religious guys who took issue with the Garbage Pail Kids.

Wow, that is some serious pettiness. Remember when life was so mellow the only things people had time to grumble about was Garbage Pail Kids?

dgo71 · #22 03-31-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD

Wow, that is some serious pettiness. Remember when life was so mellow the only things people had time to grumble about was Garbage Pail Kids?

Lol, no kidding. For better or worse, there are cartoons on TV regularly that are 100x worse than Garbage Pail Kids. The times they are a-changin'...

DFWGrapher · #23 04-12-2022, 08:10 PM

Got two more baseball ones to add that I found out while going for the Frisco Roughriders this weekend:

Josh Stowers: will not sign unlicensed photos

Jonathan Ornelas: will no longer sign his 2018 Bowman Draft card. For unknown reasons it lists him as a member of the Diamondbacks and in a D-Backs uni... even though he was a Rangers draft pick and hasn't played in any other organization. He signed it or me in 2019 but has stopped now that he has Rangers cards.

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