What's up with these t206 sold auction prices ???

[packs]

The Registry is relatively new. I don't think you'd even know pop reports without it so assuming people lose their interest in the registry, what drives pop report buying?

Rare backs and finding cards that are rarely seen with certain backs are totally different animals. Lenox is generally rare and yes, generally collected. But a common with an Old Mill back isn't. Unless the registry is involved, I guess. Don't think it's apples to apples or a reason why one can't live without the other, when for most of the hobby's history there was no registry or pop count.

[nineunder71]

Well, I disagree.

I care BIG TIME about the population reports.

This hobby is moving because the advent of the population reports.

Technology has given us, not only a platform to trade on(actually multiple), but a source of data analytics. Real Data is now available. Data never known until given to us since the pop reports were A. Created, and B. Made public.

Data is now what is driving the move.

Your last statement kinda sums up your lack of understanding...... It’s not the prior century anymore, times have changed. You will either move forward or be left behind. Best of Luck

Originally Posted by packs

The Registry is relatively new. I don't think you'd even know pop reports without it so assuming people lose their interest in the registry, what drives pop report buying?

Rare backs and finding cards that are rarely seen with certain backs are totally different animals. Lenox is generally rare and yes, generally collected. But a common with an Old Mill back isn't. Unless the registry is involved, I guess. Don't think it's apples to apples or a reason why one can't live without the other, when for most of the hobby's history there was no registry or pop count.

[packs]

Why would I need to move forward if the registry doesn't impact my collecting? My question was whether or not collecting by pop count will continue or die off. I asked the question because pop counts have inflated the prices for these cards.

The question is of interest to me because pop count buying is speculative at best. The pop count can't factor in cards that aren't graded. So the pop count seems to be an unofficial barometer. These cards aren't collected the same way modern is, where you more or less have to grade your cards for them to retain value. If you read the board and have been around the block for a while, you know that a lot of people who collect pre-war either don't grade their cards or pop their cards out after purchasing.

[nineunder71]

Well, lets look at what we now know today (Again, due to the pop reports!)

We will take my Malarkey card above to use as an example:

Currently: combined population reports suggest the following:

Piedmont 350s: pop = 308
Sovereign 350s: pop = 56
Cycle 350s: pop = 7


So....... You’re saying “Speculative at Best” ????

While an unofficial barometer it might be,

IT IS FAR SUPERIOR TO “SPECULATIVE AT BEST”, this I promise

[53toppscollector]

I think pop reports are essential, because its really kind of impossible to collect, on a serious level, without knowing how many there are of a certain item. if you want to collect every Babe Ruth card ever made, you need to know 1.) what Babe Ruth cards exist and 2.) how many of each exist

If there are literally 3 surviving copies of a card known, and 25 people want to own that card, you can see why prices are what they are.

Now you can posit that there shouldn't be 25 people who want to own card X, but that is also kind of silly.

There are more people who want to own these cards than there is supply of the card. Which is why you have a common player like Devlin go for thousands in an extremely scarce back. People want those backs. And I think they always will.

[packs]

Analogies have always been an issue on this board. I am talking about collecting an Old Mill subset not Babe Ruth. I think it has been well established that there are a lot of pre-war collectors who don’t grade their cards. The pop count might be useful for cards that are overwhelming graded but I don’t think they’re a true representation of T206 commons that people have little incentive to grade unless they’re either high grade or have a back seen as generally rare like Lenox, etc.

Pop counts have their place in the hobby but will they go on to dominate pre-war? I don’t think so. Maybe good fodder for an auction description though.

[nineunder71]

“Little incentive to grade”. Again, your comment

So, how do explain 308 Piedmont 350 Malarkey cards currently being graded? When at the same time, you don’t think those submitters would submit their Cycle 350?? Your logic is off

If you don’t mind..... how old are u?

Originally Posted by packs

Analogies have always been an issue on this board. I am talking about collecting an Old Mill subset not Babe Ruth. I think it has been well established that there are a lot of pre-war collectors who don’t grade their cards. The pop count might be useful for cards that are overwhelming graded but I don’t think they’re a true representation of T206 commons that people have little incentive to grade unless they’re either high grade or have a back seen as generally rare like Lenox, etc.

Pop counts have their place in the hobby but will they go on to dominate pre-war? I don’t think so. Maybe good fodder for an auction description though.