Small Traditions LLC/SCANDAL UPDATE

Snowman · #1 09-18-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Maybe this will help...

With all due respect, I've read this screen shot dozens of times. It's a nothing burger as even Peter above acknowledged. This is not a communication where Brent is trying to get someone to shill their auction. This is him reprimanding Courtney for string bidding and not taking the high bid during the stages of an auction where the bids don't even matter anyhow.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 09-18-2021, 01:00 PM

I wish people would stop bringing up that text message lol because it really doesn't help the case against Brent.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #3 09-18-2021, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I wish people would stop bringing up that text message lol because it really doesn't help the case against Brent.

It doesn't help because people are focusing on the wrong thing. It's not that he told him he would be outbid (I could certainly say that about lots in my auction, especially fairly early on, without feeling like I was risking impropriety) it's the fact that Courtney WAS THE CONSIGNOR OF THE ITEM IN QUESTION. Or has age dulled my memory and he wasn't, in which case why does Brent care how he bids?

Peter_Spaeth · #4 09-18-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

It doesn't help because people are focusing on the wrong thing. It's not that he told him he would be outbid (I could certainly say that about lots in my auction, especially fairly early on, without feeling like I was risking impropriety) it's the fact that Courtney WAS THE CONSIGNOR OF THE ITEM IN QUESTION. Or has age dulled my memory and he wasn't, in which case why does Brent care how he bids?

Brent cared because, as the text itself notes, people were bitching to him about the string bidder bidding only up to the point of the high bidder's max bid but not taking over the lead.

If Courtney was the consignor I don't remember that.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #5 09-18-2021, 04:41 PM

I thought he bought the card from Brent at a National, discovered it was cleaned and Brent offered to sell it for him to get him his money back. Again maybe memory doesn't serve me correctly, and I hate to have to wade through all that old crap again. That's worse than trying to spot shill bidders in one of my auctions...

Peter_Spaeth · #6 09-18-2021, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I thought he bought the card from Brent at a National, discovered it was cleaned and Brent offered to sell it for him to get him his money back. Again maybe memory doesn't serve me correctly, and I hate to have to wade through all that old crap again. That's worse than trying to spot shill bidders in one of my auctions...

I thought he sold it through Goldin and that John Perez bought it and was the consignor of the auction in question. Could be wrong but fairly sure.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #7 09-18-2021, 04:52 PM

Well, if he wasn't the consignor then it's not the best conversation to be having, but materially it's pretty much a nothing-burger to me.

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