MVP's

[packs]

I'm not going to say it's on par with any of Ted's seasons but Ralph Kiner seems like he got totally disrespected in 1951. He led the league in WAR, OBP, Slugging, OPS, Runs, Home Runs, Walks, and Extra Base Hits.

He finished 10th!

[FourStrikes]

agree...helluva year!

Originally Posted by packs

I'm not going to say it's on par with any of Ted's seasons but Ralph Kiner seems like he got totally disrespected in 1951. He led the league in WAR, OBP, Slugging, OPS, Runs, Home Runs, Walks, and Extra Base Hits.

He finished 10th!

[soxinseven]

I remember reading once that during one of his Triple Crown seasons (47 I think) a New York sportswriter left him completely off the ballot. An 8/9th place vote would have won the MVP for him.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by soxinseven

I remember reading once that during one of his Triple Crown seasons (47 I think) a New York sportswriter left him completely off the ballot. An 8/9th place vote would have won the MVP for him.

And this is another example of why baseball writers/reporters, or other finite select groups shouldn't always be the main and sole decision makers in determining things like MVPs and HOFers anymore. Back in the early days of baseball, people only saw and learned how great a player was by going to games in person, or reading about them in the papers. The baseball writers and reporters were about the only ones who actually got to see and truly know how well ALL these players were on a day to day basis, other than the players and coaches themselves, because they had to attend all the games as part of their jobs. But over time and the advent of at first radio, followed by TV, and now the internet, apps, and streaming services, virtually anyone can watch literally every player and team pretty much anytime they want now. So why do we still need these special groups like baseball writers/reporters to make decisions on behalf of baseball's fans and followers?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by BobC

And this is another example of why baseball writers/reporters, or other finite select groups shouldn't always be the main and sole decision makers in determining things like MVPs and HOFers anymore. Back in the early days of baseball, people only saw and learned how great a player was by going to games in person, or reading about them in the papers. The baseball writers and reporters were about the only ones who actually got to see and truly know how well ALL these players were on a day to day basis, other than the players and coaches themselves, because they had to attend all the games as part of their jobs. But over time and the advent of at first radio, followed by TV, and now the internet, apps, and streaming services, virtually anyone can watch literally every player and team pretty much anytime they want now. So why do we still need these special groups like baseball writers/reporters to make decisions on behalf of baseball's fans and followers?

Who else is going to write the short two paragraph stories (???) on the internet laden with typos, grammatical errors and third grade content. If you want quality reporting, you hire a reporter, not an illiterate alien living in a tent, even though this has been tried.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Who else is going to write the short two paragraph stories (???) on the internet laden with typos, grammatical errors and third grade content. If you want quality reporting, you hire a reporter, not an illiterate alien living in a tent, even though this has tried.

LOL

Good one Frank!