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Old 10-04-2021, 08:32 AM
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HOFer for sure but a very low tier one in my opinion. Even Tim Hudson has 200 wins.
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HOFer for sure but a very low tier one in my opinion. Even Tim Hudson has 200 wins.
3 Cy Youngs and 2 second places. 2.49 career ERA. Dominant for a decade. Very low tier? No. Way.
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How do you view Greinke?
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How do you view Greinke?
Definite HOF, a tier or two below Kershaw, I would have to think about ranking him but maybe somewhere in the 30s or could slip to the 40s because his ERA while solid isn't in elite range.
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I don't know. Pitchers aren't as glamorous as hitters and to truly be an elite A-level HOFer I think you have to be a guy like Pedro or Randy Johnson and if you're not, there's not a lot that separates you from everybody else.
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I don't know. Pitchers aren't as glamorous as hitters and to truly be an elite A-level HOFer I think you have to be a guy like Pedro or Randy Johnson and if you're not, there's not a lot that separates you from everybody else.
Look at Kerhsaw's record. He had a run of 7 or so dominant years, not sure why you feel he isn't in at least the Pedro category. Big asterisk of course postseason but I'm leaving that out of the equation.

A full point of ERA separates him from Greinke.
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Randy won 4 CY in a row and struck out almost 5,000 batters. Pedro has 3,000 K's, which is akin to 3,000 hits. Kershaw has no milestone.
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Google his name. Lots of pictures will come up. (I couldn't resist.)
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