T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[Pat R]

My post wasn't a criticism towards Scot or anyone else, I was just pointing out that Bergen, Murray, and Overall hands at waist were previously confirmed on other lists too and they were still on Ted's list until Adam questioned them in 2016.

Originally Posted by tedzan

The Bergen (catching) PIEDMONT factory 42 card has been confirmed.

The grand total is now 75 (out of 109) cards with PIEDMONT factory 42 backs that have been confirmed.

PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 confirmed list............

350/460 Series......63 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)

Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)

Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)



460-only Series......12 cards

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


This 460-only Series card has been reported but not 100% confirmed......

Chance (bat)


Any new PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 inputs are greatly appreciated.


Thanks to all who have contributed to this T206 survey.

TED Z

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman

Ted,

I would like to see scans of the following confirmed Piedmont 42's:

Bergen Catching
Murray Portrait
Overall Yellow Sky

I have been researching and looking for proof of these cards existing and have had no luck. With them confirmed via both yourself and T206 resource I would have to believe their are scans somewhere.

If so then I need to add these to my needed for completion list.

Thanks in advance !!!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

My post wasn't a criticism towards Scot or anyone else, I was just pointing out that Bergen, Murray, and Overall hands at waist were previously confirmed on other lists too and they were still on Ted's list until Adam questioned them in 2016.

Hey Pat

You are constantly "obsessed" with trying to prove me wrong. And, once again you have failed.

I shared P#42 cards (trading and/or selling them to Adam), and knowledge of them with Adam Goldenberg circa 2014 - 2017....in order to help him put his P#42 run together.

So, what the hell are you talking about ! ?


Here is one of my posts which contradicts your "bull-crap". Note the DATE.

Posted 7-9-2015

Originally Posted by tedzan

With the recent discovery of Tinker (bat off shoulder) the confirmed total now is 72 subjects with the PIEDMONT 460, factory #42 back.




PIEDMONT 460 Factory #42 confirmed list............

350/460 Series......63 subjects (complete)

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)

Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (throwing)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Tinker (bat off shoulder)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)

Willis (throwing)
Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)



460-only Series......9 subjects

Chase (Trophy)
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
Merkle (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


Other Net54 sources claim that the following 4 subjects are confirmed.

Chance (batting)
Bergen (catching)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)

My research indicates that these 4 subjects are PIEDMONT 460, factory #42 No-Prints.



TED Z
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[Pat R]

Ted 7-9-2015 is when you posted the original list but you edited it several times until 9-21-2017. If you click on the blue arrow in Adams post that I quoted in my post you will see that his post was on 4-9-2016
asking about those three that were on your list.

[tedzan]

Yes, I edited my 7-9-15 post to include Tinker.....

Last edited by tedzan; 09-21-2017 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Added Tinker in 350/460 series.


What really annoys me about your "bull-crap", Pat, is that your nasty comments are suggesting that Adam and I were having a dispute over these cards. Which is a blatant LIE !

Hey Net54ers....let me tell you this.....
I helped Adam Goldenberg with his PIEDMONT #42 collection and his AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 collection in recent years. He and I have met at the National several times, and we
have had some great conversations in person (and via email, or over the telephone).

For this man (Pat) to engage in his constant meaningless attacks towards me on Net54 is reprehensible. This forum is not intended to operate like the various toxic social media.


TED Z
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[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Yes, I edited my 7-9-15 post to include Tinker.....

Last edited by tedzan; 09-21-2017 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Added Tinker in 350/460 series.


What really annoys me about your "bull-crap", Pat, is that your nasty comments are suggesting that Adam and I were having a dispute over these cards. Which is a blatant LIE !

Hey Net54ers....let me tell you this.....
I helped Adam Goldenberg with his PIEDMONT #42 collection and his AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 collection in recent years. He and I have met at the National several times, and we
have had some great conversations in person (and via email, or over the telephone).

For this man (Pat) to engage in his constant meaningless attacks towards me on Net54 is reprehensible. This forum is not intended to operate like the various toxic social media.


TED Z
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Please show me where you are getting this from!!!!

[parkerj33]

Hey Ted, great work!....i assume you saw this?

jennings (hands over head) brown lenox found

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...5R5K9n_Mykih-A

Just referred back to your post 171, and you of course predicted this gem would be found one day....and today is the day!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Hey Ted, great work!....i assume you saw this?

jennings (hands over head) brown lenox found

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...5R5K9n_Mykih-A

Just referred back to your post 171, and you of course predicted this gem would be found one day....and today is the day!

Hi Jim

Thanks for posting this information. Yes, it's a great feeling when you predict something in the T206 set, and it becomes true.

Here is my current checklist regarding the confirmed brown LENOX cards......

350/460 series subjects confirmed with brown LENOX backs

Bradley (bat)
Burch (fielding)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Crawford (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (two hands)
Jordan (bat)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Manning (pitching)
McQuillan (bat)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pfeister (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Tinker (bat off shoulder).......... ?
Wagner (bat on right shoulder)
Willetts
Willis (bat)

I still expect these 7 subjects from the 350/460 series will eventually be found with brown LENOX backs......

Berger
Mullin (bat)
Pelty (vertical)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Doc White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Wiltse (pitching)


460-only series subjects confirmed with brown LENOX backs

Chase (trophy)
Latham
Marquard (pitching)
Merkle (throwing)
Schlei (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)

I still expect these 3 subjects from the 460-only series will eventually be found with brown LENOX backs......

Schlei (batting)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)


TED Z

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