Topps Uncut Sheets

[Cliff Bowman]

A new member was graciously making me professionally done virtual sheets of the 1963 Topps series sheets that Kevvyg1026 and I put together but unfortunately he disappeared before he did the 3rd Series and the 5th Series. He did make the 2nd, 6th, and the 7th Series but I can't figure out how to display larger scans. On the 2nd Series sheet I now know that the three missing cards on the green row are in order Frank Howard, Richie Ashburn, Frank Torre, but I still don't know the order of the two missing yellow cards, Jim Kaat and Dick Brown.

[deweyinthehall]

Thanks - larger scans would be great if it were possible. I'm really surprised there's no single reference site (that i know of) that captures what we know and what we conjecture about Topps sheets, 1952-1972.

I even have a couple questions about 1974 and 1976 - at 132 cards you'd have an even 5 sheets. But the Traded cards were mixed in , so I assume there were 6 sheets each of those years?

Also, in the 1972 set, series 1 has 132 cards, and each subsequent series has 131 - this is because each subsequent series contains the checklist for its own series which is numbered as part of the previous series, and the checklst for the next series. For series 6, with no "next" series, I assume all 4 checklists across both slits were the 6th series.

So for 1972, it seems that the series 1 checklist was printed at half the rate of the other 5 - sound about right? And therefore, the other 5 were printed at twice the rate of the other cards in the set?

[G1911]

The series 1 checklist was a lower percentage most years, for the same reasons. But, they’re still usually the easiest or close to it because series 1 almost every year was printed in far more quantity than the other series.

[Kevvyg1026]

For many of the releases from the mid-60s to late 60s, series 1 printings contained 110 cards, so 10 different rows of 11 cards each. Typically, the series 1 sheet had 4 of these rows printed 3x each, and the other 6 rows were printed 2x each.

However, checklist 1 was printed in two different rows while checklist 2 was printed in only one of those rows. So, while it is true that checklist 2 was printed again in the next series, checklist 1 had two copies in the 1st series printing.

Now the 2nd series printing often had 88 unique cards, which meant that each of the 8 rows were printed 3x each across the sheet. So checklist 2 usually had 5 copies printed from series 1 and series 2 combined (2 from series 1, 3 from series 2) whereas checklist 1 could have anywhere from 4 to 6 copies, depending on which rows that card was in.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Thanks - larger scans would be great if it were possible. I'm really surprised there's no single reference site (that i know of) that captures what we know and what we conjecture about Topps sheets, 1952-1972.

I even have a couple questions about 1974 and 1976 - at 132 cards you'd have an even 5 sheets. But the Traded cards were mixed in , so I assume there were 6 sheets each of those years?

Also, in the 1972 set, series 1 has 132 cards, and each subsequent series has 131 - this is because each subsequent series contains the checklist for its own series which is numbered as part of the previous series, and the checklst for the next series. For series 6, with no "next" series, I assume all 4 checklists across both slits were the 6th series.

So for 1972, it seems that the series 1 checklist was printed at half the rate of the other 5 - sound about right? And therefore, the other 5 were printed at twice the rate of the other cards in the set?

complicating things is the actual sheets being double sheets that were then cut down to 132.

I can't recall how the traded cards were done in 74 or 76, The local shop had a bunch of sheets a couple times between late 77 and 83 and they must have been there, so I would have seen them.

[Kevvyg1026]

couple of panels are shown.

1976_panel_1.jpg

1976_panel_2.jpg

[jmoran19]

Will find sheets tomorrow but for 1976 topps took one 132 card half sheet and split into two 132 card half’s with traded cards printed 3 times in 22 card blocks on each sheet

[Cliff Bowman]

There are several on the internet from auction houses. ETA, apparently 1974 Traded was only printed on its own sheet.

[jmoran19]

really crappy pic of the 1976 half (right) slit that was split into two for the traded card printing

The 74 traded cards I believe were printed on own sheet as well in blocks of 44 (44x3=132)

john1976yanbench_nostars.jpg

[BillP]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

A new member was graciously making me professionally done virtual sheets of the 1963 Topps series sheets that Kevvyg1026 and I put together but unfortunately he disappeared before he did the 3rd Series and the 5th Series. He did make the 2nd, 6th, and the 7th Series but I can't figure out how to display larger scans. On the 2nd Series sheet I now know that the three missing cards on the green row are in order Frank Howard, Richie Ashburn, Frank Torre, but I still don't know the order of the two missing yellow cards, Jim Kaat and Dick Brown.

These are great. I, like others wonder what couple be done to enlarge and then print these for display. After the hard work and time put in for at least 63,66 and 67 and maybe 68, It would be worth it. Also, to set the record straight on what is an SP and what isn't with publications.
The 63 Dalkowski, lower left corner, must follow the 1966 591 run of the card in that position must have hard issues and therefore a bit scarcer. The price of the Dalkowski certainly reflects that. Thx billp

[deweyinthehall]

One last thought on the 72s is that if we laid out a single copy of each of the 6 sheets side by side, we'd have 2 series 1 checklists (same amount as other cards), 4 of series 2-5 (double printed - 2 each on the previous series sheet and 2 on the actual series sheet) and 6 of series 6 (3X printed- two from series 5 and 4 from series 6).

I know many others are already familiar about these things, but I'm just starting to get into the sheets, and it's very interesting. Thanks for you indulgence!

[Kevvyg1026]

I will check my 72 info, and post tomorrow. Traveling today.

[Kevvyg1026]

For 1972, I see the following:

Series 1 1 to 132
Series 2 133 to 263, plus check 2 again
Series 3 264 to 394, plus check 3 again
Series 4 395 to 525, plus check 4 again
Series 5 526 to 656, plus check 5 again
Series 6 657 to 787, plus check 6 again.

So, check 1 would have been printed 2x on the series 1 sheet, while series 2 through 6 would been 4 ea. (double printed - 2 each on the previous series sheet and 2 on the actual series sheet).

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