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BobbyStrawberry · #1 10-31-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

There are a lot of people who collect casino chips, myself included. .... in that hobby, nearly everyone cleans their chips if they are dirty....in that hobby, not only are people ok with cleaning their chips, nearly everyone prefers it.

If a card has been altered but that alteration cannot be detected, then what difference does it make? .... But if you still want to complain because when is able to clean a card safely, restoring it to its original state before little Billy spilled his hot cocoa on it then you've just become the old man yelling at clouds. ... Who cares? At the end of the day, it's just a card.

Travis, I believe you are not accounting for an important distinction between paper/cardboard ephemera and poker chips, which, if my research is correct, have been made for a very long time with materials like plastic or ceramic.

As a collector of ephemera, it seems to me self-evident that it is not possible to "restore [it] to its original state" as you propose. These are documents from another time which have aged, not shiny objects to be polished or trimmed around the edges to look "better".

I don't doubt that there are many who would agree with you, but that's my two cents.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 10-31-2021, 02:52 PM

Different hobbies, different mentalities. Most of us were taught to prize originality and to reject most alterations, and to prefer differentiation according to which cards had better survived the test of time, rather than by the quality of alterations and pure looks. At some level there is an arbitrariness to it I suppose, and a new generation is free of course to reject it and to prefer the better repaired/better looking cards, but that doesn't make my ethos stupid.

As I said two plus years ago to the NY Times reporter, and I stand by it,
“Originality is the bedrock of the hobby, and it all flows from there. Most people place a premium on originality and don’t want altered cards.”

Were I interviewed today, I would add that there does seem to be a significant group that doesn't really care as long as the alteration isn't too obvious.

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