SGC is cranking on recent subs....WOW!!!!!!!

cammb · #1 11-11-2021, 10:54 AM

Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

vthobby · #2 11-12-2021, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cammb

Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike

irv · #3 11-12-2021, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike

I've always thought SGC graded the toughest out of any of the TPG's, and are the most consistent as well.
They are not perfect, but I believe they are the closest to that.

cammb · #4 11-12-2021, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vtgmsc

Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike

I, too, have been using SGC for many years but a recent sub of only three cards left me scratching my head. I will play the game of guess the grade . I will try to upload the cards in question later today under a separate thread.

jchcollins · #5 11-12-2021, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cammb

Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

Around when the pandemic started in 2020, SGC lost the script on a lot of things - particularly centering - which may have been related to the hiring of new graders. (?) I got a couple of '72 cards in 5's and 5.5's where the grade was clearly tied only to centering - they were NM or better cards otherwise - and it's like nobody taught the graders the difference between 85/15 and 65/35. The latter does not deserve a downgrade to EX range or lower if otherwise a pack fresh card. Yes, all graders make mistakes but realistically we are talking hundreds or thousands of dollars difference in some cases with the more pricey cards. It's expected, but also extremely frustrating. I'm not sure if SGC has resolved that particular tendency around centering yet or not. I've been loathe to send them any more cards since they later returned me Mantles in slabs with plastic shards sticking into the edges of the card.

Aquarian Sports Cards · #6 11-12-2021, 04:30 PM

Ugh, so entered Post Grading on 11/10 and still no grades let alone my overnight shipment arriving by today. Guess they'll hold until next Pre War auction.

Snowman · #7 11-16-2021, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins

Around when the pandemic started in 2020, SGC lost the script on a lot of things - particularly centering - which may have been related to the hiring of new graders. (?) I got a couple of '72 cards in 5's and 5.5's where the grade was clearly tied only to centering - they were NM or better cards otherwise - and it's like nobody taught the graders the difference between 85/15 and 65/35. The latter does not deserve a downgrade to EX range or lower if otherwise a pack fresh card. Yes, all graders make mistakes but realistically we are talking hundreds or thousands of dollars difference in some cases with the more pricey cards. It's expected, but also extremely frustrating. I'm not sure if SGC has resolved that particular tendency around centering yet or not. I've been loathe to send them any more cards since they later returned me Mantles in slabs with plastic shards sticking into the edges of the card.

I've noticed this as well. Even PSA has abandoned their published centering standards since the pandemic began. Both have moved the goalposts on us.

Oscar_Stanage · #8 11-16-2021, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

I've noticed this as well. Even PSA has abandoned their published centering standards since the pandemic began. Both have moved the goalposts on us.

centering has clearly gotten tougher. what baffles me about centering is that it is the only category that is scientific, and should be consistent. I doubt the graders even bother to measure - it is all done by eye.

mrreality68 · #9 11-16-2021, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

centering has clearly gotten tougher. what baffles me about centering is that it is the only category that is scientific, and should be consistent. I doubt the graders even bother to measure - it is all done by eye.

+1 Agree and a little scary especially when talking about how it effects the grading and thus the value to some people

Mutton Chop Yaz · #10 12-01-2021, 02:33 PM

How fast is SGC cranking these days? I have a few orders out, all received in the last month.

Has anyone received grades recently? If so, when did SGC receive your cards?

nineunder71 · #11 12-01-2021, 03:15 PM

I have an order that was shipped back to me yesterday from SGC. They received this order 10-22

Best of Luck

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Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz

How fast is SGC cranking these days? I have a few orders out, all received in the last month.

Has anyone received grades recently? If so, when did SGC receive your cards?

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