The Cy-pothetical Young Award: 1912-1945

[Touch'EmAll]

Interesting info I have posted years ago, but a refresher ...

These are consecutive head-to-head appearances of the two pitchers (as both were in American League and played against each other):

August 14, 1915 - Ruth defeats Johnson 4-3
April 17, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 5-1
June 1, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0
August 15, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0 in 13 innings
September 9, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 2-1
September 12, 1916 - Johnson defeats Ruth 4-3

During 1916 and 1917, Ruth compiled won-lost records of 23-12 and 24-13 with ERAs of 1.75 and 2.01

In 1916, Ruth led the league in ERA and Shutouts (9) and in 1917, in complete games (35).

Johnson put up some eye-popping numbers also. But his stats weren't as good as Ruth's. Over the same two years, Johnson was 25-20 and 23-16 with ERAs of 1.89 and 2.30

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Touch'EmAll

Interesting info I have posted years ago, but a refresher ...

These are consecutive head-to-head appearances of the two pitchers (as both were in American League and played against each other):

August 14, 1915 - Ruth defeats Johnson 4-3
April 17, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 5-1
June 1, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0
August 15, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0 in 13 innings
September 9, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 2-1
September 12, 1916 - Johnson defeats Ruth 4-3

During 1916 and 1917, Ruth compiled won-lost records of 23-12 and 24-13 with ERAs of 1.75 and 2.01

In 1916, Ruth led the league in ERA and Shutouts (9) and in 1917, in complete games (35).

Johnson put up some eye-popping numbers also. But his stats weren't as good as Ruth's. Over the same two years, Johnson was 25-20 and 23-16 with ERAs of 1.89 and 2.30

Wow great comparison and supervising results
Just shows the greatness of both

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Wow great comparison and supervising results
Just shows the greatness of both

And let's not forget that Ruth won two games in the 1916 WS as Boston defeated Brooklyn.

[Baseball Rarities]

Originally Posted by Yoda

And let's not forget that Ruth won two games in the 1916 WS as Boston defeated Brooklyn.

Hey John - I think that Ruth won 1 game in the 1916 Series.

He won 2 in the 1918 Series.

I wish that Carrigan would have used him in the 1915 Series. He was 18-8 during the regular season

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

Wow great comparison and supervising results
Just shows the greatness of both

+1. Cool chart comparison.
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[BobC]

Originally Posted by Touch'EmAll

Interesting info I have posted years ago, but a refresher ...

These are consecutive head-to-head appearances of the two pitchers (as both were in American League and played against each other):

August 14, 1915 - Ruth defeats Johnson 4-3
April 17, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 5-1
June 1, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0
August 15, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 1-0 in 13 innings
September 9, 1916 - Ruth defeats Johnson 2-1
September 12, 1916 - Johnson defeats Ruth 4-3

During 1916 and 1917, Ruth compiled won-lost records of 23-12 and 24-13 with ERAs of 1.75 and 2.01

In 1916, Ruth led the league in ERA and Shutouts (9) and in 1917, in complete games (35).

Johnson put up some eye-popping numbers also. But his stats weren't as good as Ruth's. Over the same two years, Johnson was 25-20 and 23-16 with ERAs of 1.89 and 2.30

Good analysis, but as noted, WJ's team was not considered as good. Can't be done of course, but how do you think those games may have turned out had they switched the teams they were pitching for?