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[Griffins]

$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Griffins

$168K for a '54 Topps pack blew me away. That was $3500 just a few years ago.

Sure wish I hadn't opened mine.

[cgjackson222]

There were definitely some weird prices.

A '55 Topps Mays SGC 6 for $4,400????
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94057

This is is almost double the highest (in March 2021) shown for a PSA 6 on the PSA website:
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/179831#g=6

Meanwhile, a PSA 5 of the same card sold for $840:
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94056

I thought that the 11 (yes there were 11) Clemente rookies kind of cannibalized each other, especially in the low grades. An SGC 1.5 sold for only $990. I sold an SGC 1.5 on ebay for $1150 about an hour after I posted it a month ago.
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...e?itemid=94053

I would not have been pleased to have my Clemente rookie up against 10 others.

[insidethewrapper]

Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Cobb Dietsche fielding (PSA 3) starting to get some love $ 49,200, but still way below the T206 Green PSA 5.5 Cobb at $ 81,000. Cobb's are red hot, a lot of Detroit collectors out there.

I had both of those cards. Sold the Cobb fielding a few years ago, not even close to that price. Cobb green half of that price, but was happy. Joe

[mouschi]

Originally Posted by puckpaul

I agree wholeheartedly on both the National Copper Plates (actually predate the Sporting News and the real rookie) and the M101’s, these are simply gorgeous cards when seen in person in nice condition. I have each of the Wagners in my sets of these, the Copper is bound in the original booklet in near perfect condition. The Sporting News is also in strong condition but has some minor wear on close inspection. Both are entirely unaltered.

I am sure it exists, but I have not seen another national copper plate wagner at all in my 33 years of collecting.

They are my favorite sets in my collection.

Those Wagners are absolutely MAGNIFICENT! My gosh, man ... not just having one ... but both ... and sets? Yowza x 1000!

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Those are beautiful. Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the National Copper Plate Wagner predates the M101-1 Sporting News? Both were issued in 1899, correct?

I know that the National Copper Plate cards were issued 1898 and 1899 and the M101-1 Sporting News cards were issued weekly during the 1899 and 1900 seasons, but it seems as though both Wagners were issued in 1899. The M101-1 actually has the exact date of August 19, 1899 printed on it while the National Copper Plate has just 1899 noted.

There has been a National Copper Plate Wagner for what seems like years. I wish that it fit in my collecting budget.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/13216270408...QAAOSwIWVY9VvV

REA also had a real nice bound near set several years ago that had a really nice Wagner in it.

I think the general consensus is that Copper Plates were released before the Sporting News version, but your mention on both showing 1899 is something that frankly escaped me until you said something - great catch!

In any event, I still think that Copperplate somehow provided this artwork to Sporting News, which in turn, used it for their purposes, so mayhaps National Copperplate is a few months earlier than the Sporting News version? I don't think anyone would knock the Sporting News as being his rookie for that, though.

In any event, I would place them both as his rookie, with Sporting News being perhaps more desirable given the Sporting News pedigree, how it was released only for one day, and no holes. Maybe that's just me though, and heck, who on earth would complain about one over the other? It'd be like complaining about a Lamborghini having a slightly different shade of red

[puckpaul]

Originally Posted by mouschi

Those Wagners are absolutely MAGNIFICENT! My gosh, man ... not just having one ... but both ... and sets? Yowza x 1000!



I think the general consensus is that Copper Plates were released before the Sporting News version, but your mention on both showing 1899 is something that frankly escaped me until you said something - great catch!

In any event, I still think that Copperplate somehow provided this artwork to Sporting News, which in turn, used it for their purposes, so mayhaps National Copperplate is a few months earlier than the Sporting News version? I don't think anyone would knock the Sporting News as being his rookie for that, though.

In any event, I would place them both as his rookie, with Sporting News being perhaps more desirable given the Sporting News pedigree, how it was released only for one day, and no holes. Maybe that's just me though, and heck, who on earth would complain about one over the other? It'd be like complaining about a Lamborghini having a slightly different shade of red

Thanks. For accuracy, i must correct the Sporting News description, the Wagner had been folded vertically so it is creased down the middle by his shoulders, more noticeable on the left side than the right. The photo i uploaded from my phone didn’t remind me of that detail, but in reviewing on my larger computer again I saw that. sorry about that. It still has no stains or tears and presents beautifully, but I like the correct info to be out there.

[Kutcher55]

That’s an extremely nice 6 if you don’t mind a little surface chop. Must have been a couple of cowboys with neither one wanting to lose.

[Yoda]

Glad to have snagged a N172 Griffith RC and the T206 Tinker Bat On, Old Mill back.
Prices were breathtaking. The 1921 Exhibit Ruth continues to shine and who knows how much higher it might head.

[LincolnVT]

Have we tricked ourselves in to thinking that certain cards are rare if they are pretty much available in every major auction offering? The only thing that has changed in recent years is the price that people are willing to pay...the cards with low populations are still available. Trade, yes...but hard to justify being a buyer for the blue chip stuff right now in my opinion...unless you sell what you have for a pile of money and then buy what you want for a pile of money.

[scooter729]

We always talk about REA's fast shipping, but the auction just ended Sunday night after midnight, and it's less than 36 hours later and the item I won is at my door. Love it!

1912 Red Sox spring training cabinet

[Bicem]

Red Sox cabinet was a favorite in the auction, congrats!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by scooter729

We always talk about REA's fast shipping, but the auction just ended Sunday night after midnight, and it's less than 36 hours later and the item I won is at my door. Love it!

1912 Red Sox spring training cabinet

Very nice pickup

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by LincolnVT

Have we tricked ourselves in to thinking that certain cards are rare if they are pretty much available in every major auction offering? The only thing that has changed in recent years is the price that people are willing to pay...the cards with low populations are still available. Trade, yes...but hard to justify being a buyer for the blue chip stuff right now in my opinion...unless you sell what you have for a pile of money and then buy what you want for a pile of money.

Rare cards are not selling in every auction, high demand cards are. Rarity and Demand do not always match up. I have several truly rare (under 5 known examples) cards I would swap for more mainstream cards of the same players. My cards 'should' be worth more, and they might be if I auctioned them off, but they might also not be and finding that out would make me sad, so I keep them.

[Bridwell]

I overpaid for one card I wanted. The rest I ended up passing on, or got overbid on after I went to bed. Strong prices on pre-war makes me feel good about the direction things are going. Glad I've saved the old cards I have. Almost all the pre-war values are up substantially in 2020-2021.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Rare cards are not selling in every auction, high demand cards are. Rarity and Demand do not always match up. I have several truly rare (under 5 known examples) cards I would swap for more mainstream cards of the same players. My cards 'should' be worth more, and they might be if I auctioned them off, but they might also not be and finding that out would make me sad, so I keep them.

I also have gravitated towards more obscure, rare issues as compared to the more common...such as goudey, t206 over the years. Recently I've been trading some of these rarities for their more common counterparts...having been frustrated by the appreciation of the commoners as of recent past.

But it seems to me a shift is occurring towards these more scarce cards as the hobby matures and pop reports are a more commonly used metric of a cards value.