New HOFers

the 'stache · #1 12-08-2021, 03:14 AM

Yesterday was the one year anniversary of Dick Allen�s passing. And, it�s utterly shameful that the Veteran�s Committee couldn�t induct him while he was still alive. They certainly learned nothing from their failure to induct Minnie Minoso while he was still alive.

Allen is 18th all-time in OPS+. His name appears directly before Willie Mays and Hank Aaron on the list.

This whole �he was difficult, he didn�t get along with the media� narrative is utter crap. Ted Williams didn�t either, but he was voted in immediately. It bothers me to think that some of the voters would hold Allen out because he was a difficult black man. But I wouldn�t doubt it.

All that matters is a player�s performance. Nothing else. Dick Allen, or Richie Allen, or whatever name they choose to call him by�is inarguably one of the greatest offensive players in Major League Baseball history, and his continued exclusion from the Hall of Fame is a travesty.

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sayhey24 · #2 12-08-2021, 05:47 AM

Thanks for the compliments guys -- two things I've always picked up over the years are pitchers bats and Tony O. items, so I just happen to have a lot of material when it comes to Kaat and Oliva.

Glad to see Dick Allen get some love here.

Greg

perezfan · #3 12-08-2021, 02:18 PM

It's really amazing to see how similar Dick Allen's stats are, compared to Dave Parker. Really close on so many measures. But Parker had the "laser gun" throwing arm in right field, and two World Championships (Allen had none).

I would have to say that if Allen eventually gets in, Dave Parker has to be in as well. He was actually the most feared hitter in baseball for quite a few years.

Scott Garner · #4 12-08-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan

It's really amazing to see how similar Dick Allen's stats are, compared to Dave Parker. Really close on so many measures. But Parker had the "laser gun" throwing arm in right field, and two World Championships (Allen had none).

I would have to say that if Allen eventually gets in, Dave Parker has to be in as well. He was actually the most feared hitter in baseball for quite a few years.

I would whole heartedly agree on "The Cobra" as well, Mark.

ooo-ribay · #5 12-08-2021, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by the 'stache

Allen is 18th all-time in OPS+. His name appears directly before Willie Mays and Hank Aaron on the list.

This whole �he was difficult, he didn�t get along with the media� narrative is utter crap. Ted Williams didn�t either, but he was voted in immediately. It bothers me to think that some of the voters would hold Allen out because he was a difficult black man. But I wouldn�t doubt it.

The guy I want in was also a �difficult black man.� Yes, he took steroids but probably so did Piazza, Pudge and Bagwell. Many HOF voters are sanctimonious hypocrites.

mainemule · #6 12-11-2021, 08:58 AM

Finally taking stock of my HOFer inventory. I knew I sent Minnie a TTM request some time ago but had forgotten about the other item he sent back to me......

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