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Old 12-22-2021, 05:13 PM
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These are absurd! Where did you get them from? What's there story?
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Scott those are beautiful
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Default 1910 All Star Baseball Cobb & Wagner

Thanks to all who posted the kind words on my 1/1 Cobb & Wagner cards.

James, almost all of the cards that I have from this set came from a large collection of cards that my father and I obtained from the original collector back in the mid 1970s.

For the longest time, I had no idea what these cards even were until I started getting back into the hobby in the late 1990s and found a checklist for them. It turns out that, at the time, only 16 different players were known and I had 8 that were not part of the checklist (including Cobb and Wagner).

I reached out to Bob Lemke of SCD about the cards that weren't on the checklist and brought him proof one year at a show in Philadelphia. Below is the write up that Mr. Lemke put in SCD regarding the new additions to the set.
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Scott, those are awesome. I have never seen them before. Can you post back pics? What exactly are they - notebook covers? Also, how can they be from 1910 if there is a Hornsby?
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Scott, those are awesome. I have never seen them before. Can you post back pics? What exactly are they - notebook covers? Also, how can they be from 1910 if there is a Hornsby?
I believe that Scott’s cards were issued as a part of a candy box. I think that I remember seeing a full box at some point that featured players on both the front and back of it.

The Hornsby is a notebook - part of a totally different issue.

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Scott wrote about the set for Old Cardboard Magazine in 2005:

https://oldcardboard.com/misc/issue03/issue03.asp
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Scott, those are awesome. I have never seen them before. Can you post back pics? What exactly are they - notebook covers? Also, how can they be from 1910 if there is a Hornsby?
Hi Ryan,

The SCD article has a couple of different checklist additions in it. The Hornsby mentioned was from a different set.

The part of the article about the additions to the 1910 All Star Baseball set starts in the middle column of the bottom part of the page and continues on the right column on the top of the page.

The cards, like a handful of other "E" cards of the period, were cut from the sides of a candy box produced by Dockman & Sons (who was also one of the brands found on the backs of E92 cards).

Since these were cut from the sides of a candy box, they are blank backed, but they are known to have been produced by Dockman & Sons as there are at least two complete boxes known to exist.

I don't own either of the complete boxes but I'm adding images of one of the complete boxes that used to be owned by Lew Lipset.

Here is the current known checklist of 24 cards in the set.

https://oldcardboard.com/e/e2/all-st...ar-bb-list.asp
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Wow. Very cool. And Aaron, thanks for the link
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Hi Ryan,
The SCD article has a couple of different checklist additions in it. The Hornsby mentioned was from a different set. The part of the article about the additions to the 1910 All Star Baseball set starts in the middle column of the bottom part of the page and continues on the right column on the top of the page. The cards, like a handful of other "E" cards of the period, were cut from the sides of a candy box produced by Dockman & Sons (who was also one of the brands found on the backs of E92 cards). Since these were cut from the sides of a candy box, they are blank backed, but they are known to have been produced by Dockman & Sons as there are at least two complete boxes known to exist. I don't own either of the complete boxes but I'm adding images of one of the complete boxes that used to be owned by Lew Lipset. Here is the current known checklist of 24 cards in the set.
What an interesting set! So there were ballplayers on both sides of the box, right, two to the box? If one discovery of new ones expands the checklist by half, I guess there could have been many more players in the original issue. I've always wondered how things like this can be so rare. Anybody else have any of these? Perhaps these were test issues, or proofs, otherwise why aren't there more of them around? You'd think more than one kid would have kept the boxes to put other cards or stuff in. Wonder what the candy or gifts consisted of? And what's with the "privilege of opening and examining" on the flap? What's that supposed to mean? Last mystery: how in the world did Scott's two examples get graded so differently by SGC? A clearly hand-cut card gets a "5?" Wow! Overall, these are the coolest things I've seen in a long time.
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