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Old 12-30-2021, 05:14 PM
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My guess is that the overwhelming majority of people here are someplace on the spectrum between pure collector and pure investor, not at either extreme. The same is likely true of any hobby where items have nontrivial value.
+1 agree. Thinking about it I have seen many posts of people buy/ selling cards to finance their person collection and others that would do it if they can upgrade their collection
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I think the percentage of investment brokers ““ on this site is tiny compared to collectors/combo.
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Well, if I am overruled or in the minority, so be it. I got yelled at occasionally by even Captains and Admirals in the Navy. I'm a big boy and won't go to pieces. I guess the next alternative, if the investments outweigh simply collecting cards and the great, enlightening discussions, is (as has been suggested on multiple occasions in other threads) to ignore the sportscard investment BS threads. And not attempt to hijack threads or post obnoxious comments.
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Not obnoxious by any stretch and worth discussing.
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Not obnoxious by any stretch and worth discussing.
Right…if the OP hopes to be considered “obnoxious” by internet standards, he’s got a LONG way to go!
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I got yelled at occasionally by even Captains and Admirals in the Navy.
I can't say I've ever had the "pleasure" of being yelled at by an Admiral; so far it's only Captains and below I've managed to get on the wrong side of.

I am a collector, but there has to be a financial component to my collecting. If I didn't consider whether I could reasonably recoup my money if I had to sell, well then I'd have a lot more cards and a lot less money. If it all goes to zero tomorrow, I won't be the happiest person on the forum, but it's not the end of the world. And if my collection continues to appreciate, then I won't complain about that either.
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I’m in the ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ camp, and I like seeing both sides of the hobby. And my opinion, which is worth the paper it’s printed on, is that when the next correction comes, it will drive a lot of the investors out of the hobby. Not all, but enough to put a damper on the investment chatter.
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I’m in the ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ camp, and I like seeing both sides of the hobby. And my opinion, which is worth the paper it’s printed on, is that when the next correction comes, it will drive a lot of the investors out of the hobby. Not all, but enough to put a damper on the investment chatter.
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As Peter already said, I think you'll find the majority of people on here are somewhere in the middle of that collector-investor spectrum or arc. Even though a lot of people on here, especially us older folk, mostly started out as true collectors, with the accumulation of cards we've acquired and held on to over many years, coupled with the appreciation in the value of those cards (especially over the past couple of years), a lot of these collections have come to be way more in value today than many of us could have ever dreamed. I know that for a fact in my own case. When I started out collecting vintage 20-30 years ago, I figured one day I might have a few thousand dollars worth of cards in a collection, but that was it. But with the way prices and values have jumped and grown, along with picking up more and more cards as the years went by, my few thousand dollar expectation has turned into a six figure collection reality. I don't really sell or trade anything, so I'm not looking to flip cards and still am a collector, but sitting on a collection with a value in six figures, I can't ignore that fact and have to think about it as retirement looms and things regarding our economy are constantly changing around us. To not consider my collection as an asset/investment now is just shortsighted and downright foolish. And have to believe the same may hold true for a lot of other people on here now.
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With all this talk of fractional ownership of cards, here's a thought/question. What if the current owner of the Gretzky Wagner (is it still Kendrick?) decided to sell it and it ended up being purchased by a publicly traded company, for whatever reason. Would any of you ever consider then going out and buying some stock in that company, because doing so would then technically make you a partial owner of that Greztky Wagner (or whatever famous card it is that you'd like to own, but can't afford on your own)?

If you answer no, then you probably shouldn't ever consider something like is being suggested in regards to investing with others just so you can own a fractional share of a particular card. It is technically the same thing in both instances.
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I think I just overreact against negativity about money concerns being the primarily focus of collectors. At the price of some of these great cards, money has to be looked at deeply for most folks even if it’s just for collecting. I’m trying to do low grade Goudey Ruths to add to my small stable of Goudey hall of famers. At 7k a pop money concerns and perceived value just have to be a part of it for me. If anyone is willing to sell me one at 2010 prices with the commitment that I can never sell them while alive I would probably hop on board but until someone steps up and sells their cards for pre-craze prices I’m going to react negatively against the money grumbling I guess. My apologies if I sound too grumpy.
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