Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens don’t have the integrity, sportsmanship or

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

For the most part amphetamines in the batting cage would be used at higher doses so you can hit way way longer. The smaller doses are for games so you are not tired while playing.

The steroids come in because they let you heal at an insane rate. You need them after the crazy intense workouts you can do from the amphetamines. Without the steroids your body breaks down really fast from the workouts the amphetamines allow you to do.

It is best if you can stack a few different PEDs that all do different things.

Steroids are like aspirin, the work different with different people. The problem is most think steroids and instantly picture roided to the gills Mark McGwire. That is not how they work for everyone. Just look at all the skinny pitchers that have been busted over the years. Another perfect example is the Canseco brothers. Jose was a super star and then you had Ozzie.

Don't anabolics directly promote muscle growth, or is it just that they let you work out much more than your body would otherwise tolerate?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Don't anabolics directly promote muscle growth, or is it just that they let you work out much more than your body would otherwise tolerate?

In 20 years of personal experience different steroids do different things. The biggest thing is you can work out super hard and you don't get stiff and sore from that workout. It lets you workout more often and the amphetamines give you the energy to work out longer. They work amazing together, then add in some creatine to super load your cells with water so everything works better.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

In 20 years of personal experience different steroids do different things. The biggest thing is you can work out super hard and you don't get stiff and sore from that workout. It lets you workout more often and the amphetamines give you the energy to work out longer. They work amazing together, then add in some creatine to super load your cells with water so everything works better.

I am doubtless in a minority but at this point I find it hard to draw a clean line between so-called PEDs, amphetamines, cortisone, pain killers, whatever. If Sandy Koufax was having steroids shot into his elbow regularly and basically living on pain killers, did those "enhance" his performance? If a guy allegedly has hypogonadism and is prescribed testosterone supplements is he "enhancing" his performance?