Hey, pennant guys

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

I was going to email Kyle directly, since he may have interviewed someone at AdFlag for his blog, but maybe someone else here has input…

Kyle’s burgee says “Los Angeles.” The one I just purchased, directly from AdFlag, says “San Francisco.” I also have an orange on black “Giants” and a white on purple “San Francisco.” See post #6068 above. The white on purple came with “LOA” from the Cubs, dated 1998 and saying “this flag has been flown over Wrigley Field.” Worthpoint shows similar purple burgees. The recent AdFlag pickups were sold as “rooftop flags.”

EVERY picture I have ever seen of Wrigley’s centerfield scoreboard flags show flags with team (not city) names. Do the “rooftop flags” use the city names? For the life of me, I can’t find a clear picture of the rooftop flags.

As a matter of fact, yes, I did interview the current owner of ADFLAG when I wrote my last piece on them: Mike Olson. He is Frank F. Smith's, the company's founder, grandson.

Mike advised that, sometime ago, all the Wrigley burgee flags--both rooftop and scoreboard--listed the teams by city names. More recently, the team switched to team names. The current offering of burgee flags on ADFLAG's etsy storefront (obviously) never flew above Wrigley; they were made for and retained as samples. Additionally, as rooftop flags, you'll note they feature a pair of brass grommets on their spine, whereas the scoreboard variant features a pair of "D" rings. I believe the scoreboard variant, today at least, is slightly smaller in size than in decades past, due to National League expansion.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Domer05

As a matter of fact, yes, I did interview the current owner of ADFLAG when I wrote my last piece on them: Mike Olson. He is Frank F. Smith's, the company's founder, grandson.

Mike advised that, sometime ago, all the Wrigley burgee flags--both rooftop and scoreboard--listed the teams by city names. More recently, the team switched to team names. The current offering of burgee flags on ADFLAG's etsy storefront (obviously) never flew above Wrigley; they were made for and retained as samples. Additionally, as rooftop flags, you'll note they feature a pair of brass grommets on their spine, whereas the scoreboard variant features a pair of "D" rings. I believe the scoreboard variant, today at least, is slightly smaller in size than in decades past, due to National League expansion.

Thanks for the info, Kyle. I would still like to see a picture of any flag (scoreboard or rooftop) with city names, because I have yet to find one....

[bocca001]

Gary- for the cloth pennants and toploaders, I use a modern stiff pennant, put the cloth one on top of the modern (with the cloth tip hanging over a bit), and then slide them into the toploader together. Then pinch the end of the toploader to grab the cloth pennant and slide out the modern pennant. That usually gets me pretty close and easy to adjust the rest of the way.

Here is my most recent Giants pickup. I've seen mini versions of this pennant many times, but don't recall seeing a full size version. This is full size, with good colors. It was clearly stored folded up and out of the sun.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Gary- for the cloth pennants and toploaders, I use a modern stiff pennant, put the cloth one on top of the modern (with the cloth tip hanging over a bit), and then slide them into the toploader together. Then pinch the end of the toploader to grab the cloth pennant and slide out the modern pennant. That usually gets me pretty close and easy to adjust the rest of the way.

Here is my most recent Giants pickup. I've seen mini versions of this pennant many times, but don't recall seeing a full size version. This is full size, with good colors. It was clearly stored folded up and out of the sun.

Wow! Full size? Great pickup, ya bastard.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Gary- for the cloth pennants and toploaders, I use a modern stiff pennant, put the cloth one on top of the modern (with the cloth tip hanging over a bit), and then slide them into the toploader together. Then pinch the end of the toploader to grab the cloth pennant and slide out the modern pennant. That usually gets me pretty close and easy to adjust the rest of the way.

Here is my most recent Giants pickup. I've seen mini versions of this pennant many times, but don't recall seeing a full size version. This is full size, with good colors. It was clearly stored folded up and out of the sun.

Thanks Marc. I'll give that a go.

That Giants pennant is a beauty.

[bradleywr]

Anyone know the year of this pennant? I haven't been able to locate a similar while searching online. Thanks!

[UKCardGuy]

I think I've found a new manufacturer of pennants in the 40s-50s. Eder Mfg Co.

They're still in business today...the largest manufacturer of flags and flagpoles in the USA. But they started out making pillows, felt pennants and rag dolls.

https://ederflag.com/pages/about-us

I wonder what other pennants they might have produced.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I think I've found a new manufacturer of pennants in the 40s-50s. Eder Mfg Co.

They're still in business today...the largest manufacturer of flags and flagpoles in the USA. But they started out making pillows, felt pennants and rag dolls.

https://ederflag.com/pages/about-us

I wonder what other pennants they might have produced.

Very cool, Gary! I think a lot of early pennant makers also made pillow tops.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I think I've found a new manufacturer of pennants in the 40s-50s. Eder Mfg Co.

They're still in business today...the largest manufacturer of flags and flagpoles in the USA. But they started out making pillows, felt pennants and rag dolls.

https://ederflag.com/pages/about-us

I wonder what other pennants they might have produced.

Nice Discovery! I have that same pennant, less the tag on the reverse.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I think I've found a new manufacturer of pennants in the 40s-50s. Eder Mfg Co.

They're still in business today...the largest manufacturer of flags and flagpoles in the USA. But they started out making pillows, felt pennants and rag dolls.

https://ederflag.com/pages/about-us

I wonder what other pennants they might have produced.

Eder Mfg. Co. has been around for more than a century; however, until now, I've never known them to make anything other than collegiate and travel/souvenir pennants. Your discovery tells us that wasn't entirely the case.

I bought a turn of the century Notre Dame pennant with their label on it a few years ago. When I learned that the company was still in operation, I reached out and shared my purchase with them. They were pleased to see it. Today they only make flags and flag pole accessories. I asked when they last made felt novelties, and they really didn't know. She guessed they had stopped making pennants by the 1940s....

If I had to guess, this Braves pennant was likely made in 1952'ish, when everyone in Milwaukee had contracted Braves fever. I seriously doubt Eder made other pennants for other professional sports teams. Eder simply made it because they were the hometown pennant maker, and the demand existed.

Most of their labels from the 1910s look like this one, below.

Thanks for sharing!

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I think I've found a new manufacturer of pennants in the 40s-50s. Eder Mfg Co.

They're still in business today...the largest manufacturer of flags and flagpoles in the USA. But they started out making pillows, felt pennants and rag dolls.

https://ederflag.com/pages/about-us

I wonder what other pennants they might have produced.

This is a very tough to find pennant. I have had it before, but only in dark blue with a red spine. One of the earliest Milwaukee pennants. Never seen a green one.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by bradleywr

Anyone know the year of this pennant? I haven't been able to locate a similar while searching online. Thanks!

Looks to be 1950s. Would be tough to pinpoint it any further. Would you say the graphics are painted/screened on, or more like a "raised velvet"? It's difficult to tell from the provided photo.