Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa and Roger Clemens don’t have the integrity, sportsmanship or

[Republicaninmass]

If any player is on the mlb ineligible list, they shall not be considered for the hall of fame.

None of these players on in the ineligible list, like them or not. I really dont see how a blank ballot does anything. Surely some deserving players are on a ballot. Its nothing more than grandstanding to get this dead beats name out there as some sanctimonious HOF voter. His voting privilege should be immediately revoked, as personal bias got in the way of his duty to uphold a vote.


Now for the next voter who needs their 5 min of fame.

Sure is going to chap some asses with bonds and clemens going in. It wouldn't surprise me if they snub the ceremony just because. Clemens claims he is indifferent and Bonds likley hasnt commented, not that he is known for his friendly attitude.

Juice or no juice, they excelled at their sport and made it more exciting for the fans. Possibly at their own health risk , now that is dedication!

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Juice or no juice, they excelled at their sport and made it more exciting for the fans. Possibly at their own health risk , now that is dedication!

They did this act of kindness for the fans. Let's hope generations of kids follow the example of these selfless heroes.

[Peter_Spaeth]

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/hall...roger-clemens/

[SyrNy1960]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/hall...roger-clemens/

Thanks for sharing this article 👍🏻

[Eric72]

Every thread needs a card (or two)

[bnorth]

Here is my card picture contribution. One of 2 known rack packs with the Clemens Blue Streak showing, Not sure if it still is but it is/was the highest PSA graded Clemens Blue Streak, and a super cool cut card artwork Clemens Blue Streak I recently received.

[SyrNy1960]

When the PED era was happening, everyone knew it was going on. There were many conversations about it going on at that time, but nobody cared. Everyone enjoyed the results, accepted it, and benefitted from it while it was going on. Heck, even fans and collectors were enjoying it because fans knew their favorite players/teams were playing better, while auction houses, memorabilia dealers, baseball card shops, and collectors all knew the better they played, the more their cards and memorabilia would go up in value. Yes, including myself. I remember all the talk going on about PED use then; watching all of the HR’s being hit; watching the HR races going on. Heck, before 1996, the most HR’s Brady Anderson hit in a season was 21 in 1992. He hit 50 HR’s in 1996. After 1996, the most HR’s he hit was 24 in 1999. Everyone knew it was going on! Everyone knew it was going on! Everyone knew it was going on and had no issues with it.

So where are we today? It happened…many knew it was happening…many benefitted from it…and then when it became a problem, many went silent; MLB, media, etc. They all got on their self-righteous, high-horses, playing stupid, and deciding to let the players take the blame and punishment for that era. Bud Selig is in the Hall of Fame. He knew it was going on, yet, when it became an issue, he played stupid and acted as if he was going to save Major League Baseball.

Reading all of the recent articles about voting for players during that era; expressing which PED users should or should not get in, is frustrating. People can justify it however they want, but for me, they are all either in or they are out. And we all know there are some PED users already in, so that’s where I stand and struggle with the continued picking and choosing who gets in or not.

As I stated before, I don’t know what the resolve is, but the above can’t be ignored. It happened, it was accepted, and that’s reality. You can’t only punish some of the players for it. Put them in, put an asterisk next to their name, and call it a day. That is how that era will be remembered.

Thanks, Tony

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

https://www.cooperstowncred.com/hall...roger-clemens/

Thanks for the link to this site. I usually read Jay Jaffe's HoF coverage on FanGraphs, but I was not aware of this site which has a lot of in depth analysis of the HoF eligible players.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Jim65

They did this act of kindness for the fans. Let's hope generations of kids follow the example of these selfless heroes.

And the 3 stooges did it for comedy!

Amazing all these kids arent running around blinded by finger pokes!