I simply do not understand Modern - Doncic vs Mantle

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I hope this doesn't come out sounding wrong, but is there perhaps a bit of the Great White Hope thing underlying some of his popularity?



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Absolutely it helps his popularity. Along with Jokic two of the NBA's top players are now European.

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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Absolutely it helps his popularity. Along with Jokic two of the NBA's top players are now European.

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Haven't Jokic and Doncic always been European?

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Haven't Jokic and Doncic always been European?

Hah. Actually there are 3, Giannis Antetokounmpo was born and raised in Greece. The point is the diversity is good for the game, it gives fans more to relate to.

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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Hah. Actually there are 3, Giannis Antetokounmpo was born and raised in Greece. The point is the diversity is good for the game, it gives fans more to relate to.

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Oh yeah, I agree. I'd probably mention Joel Embiid in that conversation too. (Not European but Int'l - raised in Cameroon)

[esd10]

Let me first say this mickey mantle is one of the greatest to play the game but I believe the 52t mantle is over valued based on it being a double print and a ton of them in private collection and for sale. Cards of babe ruth even his rookie card dont bring the same money as a 52t mantle in comparable grades and they are a heck of alot rarer than that mantle card.

[Snapolit1]

People buy Luka rookie cards for the same reason they buy a bitcoin . . . they are convinced past appreciation will guarantee a great investment. No one stares at it and oohs and ahs.

People buy 52 Mantles for all sort of other reasons. Yes, for many an investment, but other factors in play.

[Rich Klein]

There has been an increase in interest in Luka RC's since the trade (as long as you live outside the DFW area)

Getting traded to LA and hopefully for him learning to get in shape the way LeBron stays in great condition will push his cards up a level or two.

And as for modern cards v the old timers. That has been going on for nearly 50 years now. When Mark "The Bird" Fidrych cards came out in 1977 after he became famous you could sell his cards for more than HOFers or guaranteed HOFers of most 1960's cards. Nearly 50 years later people still like to bet on the future which is not guaranteed instead of the more sure shot players.

Rich

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Hah. Actually there are 3, Giannis Antetokounmpo was born and raised in Greece. The point is the diversity is good for the game, it gives fans more to relate to.

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Agree. It also can lead to an increase in demand (and as a result price) for these players as they may have entire countries or areas of the world now wanting their cards. It wasn't too long ago that it was pretty much only Americans interested so much in basketball cards.

[BobC]

Anyone want to take guess at what a Yao Ming 1/1 rookie card would go for today if he had just entered the NBA in the last couple of years instead of back in 2002?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by BobC

Anyone want to take guess at what a Yao Ming 1/1 rookie card would go for today if he had just entered the NBA in the last couple of years instead of back in 2002?

Money on the level of what Zion's cards were being offered for.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Money on the level of what Zion's cards were being offered for.

I was thinking with Chinese money we could be talking closer to these Doncic rookie type numbers maybe.