Local John Stockton Mask Controversy

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Between most of the world's governments, "the media," big pharma, hospitals, scientists and researchers, and don't forget the overwhelming majority of physicians, it's one hell of a conspiracy, damn. I wonder how often they hold meetings? "They" must have to meet often, to make sure everyone's on board with disseminating the same lies and misinformation, no?

Without trying to get political, which countries and/or states, blue or red, seem to be pushing this agenda, passports and mandates, more than the other?
Liberal gov't up here and south of me. Australia and France, to name a couple others. I am unsure so don't shoot me, but if I am not mistaken, these countries/states have the most draconian rules in place, no?
I said it in the other thread. I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.
How can an honest, for the people gov't, push/coerce a vaccine on its citizens and require mandates and passports when once vaccinated you can still contract and spread the disease you're vaccinated against?? It makes zero sense.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...C92aCxop8pAAAA

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Yes, the ones that prevent terrible diseases, not ones that simply mitigate one, like a yearly flu shot.

And those were all tested and verified to be safe, which likely took years, before they were released to the general public. They are not unapproved EUA only vaccines like these covid ones are. It's amazing how many still don't understand that.

[BobC]

As much as old cliches and adages are often viewed as stupid, biased, discriminatory, and just plain wrong in our current world, the sad truth is they were likely borne from real life events, circumstances, and observed actions and tendencies, and more often than not have a lot of actual truth and reality to support them, or at least did at some time in the past. But they are/were still never truly 100% accurate, which gives all the naysayers and opponents the ability to argue, fight, and complain about them with at least some degree of accuracy and righteousness. One of my all-time favorites is usually expressed as a short riddle.

How can you tell whenever a politician is lying..................their lips are moving!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobC

As much as old cliches and adages are often viewed as stupid, biased, discriminatory, and just plain wrong in our current world, the sad truth is they were likely borne from real life events, circumstances, and observed actions and tendencies, and more often than not have a lot of actual truth and reality to support them, or at least did at some time in the past. But they are/were still never truly 100% accurate, which gives all the naysayers and opponents the ability to argue, fight, and complain about them with at least some degree of accuracy and righteousness. One of my all-time favorites is usually expressed as a short riddle.

How can you tell whenever a politician is lying..................their lips are moving!

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

Like all jokes, they are loosely based on truths

[irv]

Any vaccinated individuals still believe they are not just Guinea pigs for Fauci and big Pharma?
And some still don't think these covid vaccines, despite the fully vaccinated hospitalization numbers, the ICU admissions and deaths deplete, not enhance ones immune system.
https://www.facebook.com/555416934/v...81669697164866

[butchie_t]

Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one!

I would like to…..but the numbers just don’t add up.

[Peter_Spaeth]

How many accountants does it take to change a light bulb?

100. 1 to change it, 9 to do the audit, and 90 to bore everyone telling them about it.

alternate answer

How many did it take last year?

[Michael B]

Unfortunately the great unwashed and Qmorons who are not critical thinkers complain about 'draconian rules' (their words) in other countries yet they know little of what they speak. Post all of the links you wish but the truth wills out.

'Texas Ted' and a Canadian member here railed about Australia and their rules. The facts:

Australia - population 25.69 million.
Cases
2.29M
Deaths
3,230
Location Cases Deaths
Australian Capital Territory 31,941 25
New South Wales 994K 1,139
Northern Territory 9,702 2
Queensland 345K 129
South Australia 103K 74
Tasmania 25,884 16
Victoria 776K 1,836
Western Australia 1,415 9

Hmmm. I guess it is not working there. Western Australia with a population of 2.7 million. Its largest city Perth with 2 million people. My God, the horrors!!!!


New Zealand has always been a bio-control zone. Try to bring a piece of fruit, raw nuts or seeds into the country and you will pay a hefty fine. If you have ever tried to enter the country you know what I mean. I have. You go through biological control before you can even go through passport control. The first time I was there in 2002 for the America's Cup prelim races the headline on the news for two days was about some school buses that were purchased from Australia. They found a non-native spider on one of them. They were tented and fumigated in a large parking lot for several days.

New Zealand
Total cases
15,687
Deaths
52

The current population of New Zealand is 4,883,423 as of Tuesday, January 25, 2022.
I guess their PM Jacinda Arden is just some Gen Xer who is too young to know and panicked when she put her country on lockdown and closed the borders.

That is pretty amazing. 52 deaths in a country of 4.9 million people over a two year period. Ontario had that many on Monday, January 17, 2022.

Ontario - population 14.57 million
Total cases
971K
Deaths
10,702

So a country with 33.5% of the population of your PROVINCE has 0.48% of the number of deaths. The Maoris should uprise and overthrow the government. Kill all the Kiwis!!!

[Carter08]

I don’t take any post seriously unless a YouTube or Twitter link is included.

[todeen]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I don’t take any post seriously unless a YouTube or Twitter link is included.

Did you hear that the Flintstones are becoming popular in the Middle East? Dubai doesn't watch it, but Abu Dhabi Doo!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

[irv]

Originally Posted by Carter08

I don’t take any post seriously unless a YouTube or Twitter link is included.

Did you even open those Twitter links to see what they were?
One is vid taken directly from CNN news where Tapper is also talking about the false/fake hospital numbers and the other is a health expert up here talking about how they are going to switch the numbers up to be "more accurate"

So, do you think what your T.V. screen tells you is the only factual, truthful and unbiased news around?
You do realize, just like up here, MSM is all funded by the gov't and what MSM tells you is what they are told to tell you?

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah same joke told as to lawyers.

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

CPA, the only career too boring to even have jokes about it.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by steve B

CPA, the only career too boring to even have jokes about it.

So true, so true. Of all the professions out there, this is the reason you never really see shows about them.

[irv]

"1818 cases of FULLY vaccinated in the hospital compared to 752 in the unvaccinated"
"232 cases of FULLY vaccinated in the ICU compared to 206 in the unvaccinated"
"3805 cases today of FULLY vaccinated compared to 801 in the unvaccinated"

I wonder what all of the fully vaccinated, who spent time in the hospital, (since there are never any interviews with these fully vaccinated individuals), think of the vaccines now?
Were they willing to play Russian Roulette and take their chances or were they just like Geraldo Rivera who thought once vaccinated, they would be immune/protected like all the previous vaccines did?


"GERALDO RIVERA: I have. I have. I'm in my basement cave by Greg where I've been basically living. You know, I am -- I am vaccinated to Moderna shots, then boosted with the Pfizer booster. You know, I thought for sure that I was immune. I've been very hard on the unvaccinated as Dana suggests.

I eat some humble pie in that regard because I went to Key West, Florida with my family on vacation and guess what. I came back with a scratchy throat. I insisted I didn't need a test because I was vaccinated and boosted. Then, Erica my wife insisted. So, a couple of days by the time we finally got the appointment I take the test. Erica's negative and I am positive.

It was shocking to me. It was in some ways embarrassing. I didn't quite know how to respond to it. So I did what I usually do. I went on twitter, but yes. You know, it's very frustrating. I think that to spare the president undue criticism, I think that what he should really be criticized for is the ruthless treatment of Donald Trump by Joe Biden regarding testing. You know, Trump had problems with testing but nothing of the colossal order of this magnitude.

https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/150236

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hmmm, I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that around 60% of those in Congress are attorneys/have law degrees, and something like 59% of all US Presidents were lawyers?


Actually, I always thought the preferred lawyer joke was:

What do you call 100,000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake/ocean.................a good start!


Feel free to come back with any well known CPA joke/cliche/adage............if you can find one! LOL

And I always liked and felt you could trust Harry Truman, he sold hats and suits, and is the only President since the 20th century began to not have gone to college!

Your facts are not quite right:

Congress is made up of four main occupational backgrounds: law, business, public service, and education. Those from a law background still dominate Congress—but not with nearly the stranglehold they did in the early part of the 20th century. Today lawyers represent less than 40 percent of Congress. In the place of law, new competing occupations have risen in prominence, such as business, medicine and a professionalized political class composed of political aides and members of civil society.

Additionally, only 4 of the last 10 presidents had/have law degrees with two of them being disbarred - Nixon resigned from two, disbarred from one. Slick Willy disbarred from two.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Only one lawyer of the four "squad" members. And only one if you now consider, as some do, the squad to include six members.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Michael B

Your facts are not quite right:

Congress is made up of four main occupational backgrounds: law, business, public service, and education. Those from a law background still dominate Congress—but not with nearly the stranglehold they did in the early part of the 20th century. Today lawyers represent less than 40 percent of Congress. In the place of law, new competing occupations have risen in prominence, such as business, medicine and a professionalized political class composed of political aides and members of civil society.

Additionally, only 4 of the last 10 presidents had/have law degrees with two of them being disbarred - Nixon resigned from two, disbarred from one. Slick Willy disbarred from two.

I never said from the online sources I just quickly looked up to get some approximate percentages, that the people being counted were all fully licensed and currently practicing attorneys. And my mention of it was in regard to the old joke/cliche about telling when politicians and attorneys were lying by seeing their lips were moving. It had been touched on earlier how such cliches often are derived from truthful facts or situations, at least at some point in the past. So thank you for verifying my reference was in fact true based on those earlier percentages of attorneys (or those schooled and/or trained as attorneys) being elected to Congress. When those jokes/cliches were made up, there probably was in fact a preponderance of attorneys in Congress, which was the point of my comment/joke all along.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by BobC

I never said from the online sources I just quickly looked up to get some approximate percentages, that the people being counted were all fully licensed and currently practicing attorneys. And my mention of it was in regard to the old joke/cliche about telling when politicians and attorneys were lying by seeing their lips were moving. It had been touched on earlier how such cliches often are derived from truthful facts or situations, at least at some point in the past. So thank you for verifying my reference was in fact true based on those earlier percentages of attorneys (or those schooled and/or trained as attorneys) being elected to Congress. When those jokes/cliches were made up, there probably was in fact a preponderance of attorneys in Congress, which was the point of my comment/joke all along.

I know you were not trying to state it as ironclad fact as of today. I live in Metro D.C and we are constantly bombarded on the radio with the political excrement. Half of the ads we hear are PACS, government contractors and other assorted miscreants lobbying. I was curious when you mentioned it as we hear about these individual pols and what they were back home. During my time here there have also been actors (Fred Thompson from "Law and Order", Fred Grandy from "Love Boat"), Olympic medal winners (Jim Ryun) and musicians (John Hall from Orleans known for "Still the One") as congressman and senators.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dale, Pfizer got final approval in the US anyhow back in the summer.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine

No they didn't, Peter. They got approval for a vaccine called cormirnaty, which, if you do some digging, isn't available anywhere.
It's another lie, another one of hundreds so far that has been used to fool and trick the public into thinking the Pfizer vaccine has been approved.

If there is an "approved" vaccine then all others in use under EUA must be removed. That is the law.
https://www.fda.gov/emergency-prepar...vid-19-vaccine

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by irv

I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.

The what now?

[irv]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The what now?

What has been going on while we've all been distracted by other things.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/our...t-great-reset/
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustai...elopment_Goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz--5LTTmaM

[Peter_Spaeth]

Today Prince Charles, tomorrow the world. Fertile ground for conspiracy theorists for sure.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by irv

What has been going on while we've all been distracted by other things.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/our...t-great-reset/
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustai...elopment_Goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fp0Jeyjvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz--5LTTmaM

I wouldn't watch a Trump or Trudeau speech if you paid me, but I skimmed through the rest of it. What is your theory, exactly?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

The what now?

The agenda 2030 movement.
Formerly known as the agenda 2020
Formerly known as ... I forget, directive 12? Something like that.

Known by the rest of us as "that gibberish that keeps the dummys spending their cash on whatever snake oil we're hawking on the internet. because it doesn't come from big pharma."

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

Without trying to get political, which countries and/or states, blue or red, seem to be pushing this agenda, passports and mandates, more than the other?
Liberal gov't up here and south of me. Australia and France, to name a couple others. I am unsure so don't shoot me, but if I am not mistaken, these countries/states have the most draconian rules in place, no?
I said it in the other thread. I honestly don't believe this is about covid nor the vaccines. They are, imo, just a means to an end for the global reset, the agenda 2030 movement.
How can an honest, for the people gov't, push/coerce a vaccine on its citizens and require mandates and passports when once vaccinated you can still contract and spread the disease you're vaccinated against?? It makes zero sense.
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/stat...C92aCxop8pAAAA



And those were all tested and verified to be safe, which likely took years, before they were released to the general public. They are not unapproved EUA only vaccines like these covid ones are. It's amazing how many still don't understand that.

I think one of the most draconian countries when it comes to covid is that great liberal state of China.