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01-26-2022, 12:58 AM
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 This is loony tunes on so many levels. Three years ago a card over $750 would have gone to PSA and been back in 30-60-ish days, or SGC in even less. Selling it raw on eBay would have been a non-starter. With PSA effectively out of business selling expensive raw cards has become a real thing, I guess. And so many more cards are expensive now; lower grade T206 HOF portraits are going to four figures. The USPS has been a shit show since that asswipe took it over. You really want to have an expensive card go through the USPS multiple times? How many orders are going to have to be undone when the USPS loses or wrecks the package? And who bears that risk? I have a sneaky suspicion it won't be eBay or the buyer. Can you say "mandatory shipping insurance, which eBay will gladly provide, for a fee"?  How on earth can CSG promise a quick turnaround on a card when it takes them 1-2 months to turn around a standard order? What will that do to the patient customers who are waiting for their cards now? What is CSG going to do with the vast array of cards it does not grade? How will they authenticate a Babe Ruth Exhibit when they don't even grade them? Last of all, this mandate with a limited time free means eventually it will be a cost someone eats. Probably the seller because that's what eBay always does. They are as bad as Lexis. Any time those pirates call my office to "work with you to lower your legal research bill" I know I will end up paying more. The only people who will benefit from this are the auction houses. Every layer of complexity and expense that eBay layers on just pushes more business to the AHs. Selling a card already costs me 10% of the sale price plus 3% of the sum of the sale price, the shipping, and the tax (yeah, eBay charges a transaction fee on shipping and tax). A few more points and we are at auction house pricing, and I don't need to deal with the fulfillment headaches of cards I consign, just mail 'em in ad pick up the check. Just don't know what else to say except... 
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01-27-2022, 07:53 AM
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This listing has the Authenticity Guarantee indication. Odds it's authentic?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/32500646135...YAAOSwwC9h6Nfu
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01-27-2022, 08:10 AM
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Buying puts on ebay today this bs they are pulling is out of control. What happens when you send the card in for authentication, it's authenticated then gets lost when shipped from the authentication point to the buyer. Who is responsible? Also, no way they keep up with volumes, no way.
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01-27-2022, 10:20 AM
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Contrarian view here
I do not think this is a money grab. As has been highlighted by all the "Ebay outed auctions" of clear fakes here on Net 54 - fakes have proliferated for years with likely unsuspecting buyers getting burned. An authentication process for higher value cards makes a lot of sense in instilling confidence for buyers that they are not getting burned with a fake card and are covered if they do.
Questions, as have been raised in this thread, will have to be answered in practice over time - 1) timing - I imagine would be exponentially faster to deem authenticity rather than grade - caveat - does the authenticity guarantee no alterations and what is considered an alteration? 2) cost - time will tell 3) Is CSG the right choice or the new kid on the block willing to work for Ebay's offer to try to gain some market recognition. For now, I like the concept. Edited to add: In reading through the FAQ's - I see 1 potential red herring - part of the "authentication" - they are going to match the card to the condition description: https://pages.ebay.com/cardconditions/ and if those condition definitions are from CSG, then I have a clearer picture of why I will not touch their cards with a 10 foot pole!
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01-28-2022, 10:41 PM
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01-27-2022, 11:24 AM
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They have all fake warning signs...even corner rounding, artificial aging, a little crackle effect, and just something that looks a little "off" about them in general. I'd love to see a follow-up on what the eBay authenticators rule when these cards arrive for authentication.
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01-27-2022, 11:41 AM
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If you haven't already, go to the link of the Paige and click on the Learn More link in the box describing the service. You can see what they are going for: a bypass entirely of the slabbing regime. The card comes back in a Card Saver with a sticker (like what Beckett used to do (does?)) with its QR code and in a cardboard display easel you can fold out and put on a desk. Looks tailor made for the newbie and casual collector who is the most likely victim of a fake card scam and who doesn't really know or want to have his nephew's Bar Mitzvah present graded and encapsulated.
My guess is that from eBay's perspective, paying the cost for CSG to look at the card and slap a sticker on it or reject it is more cost-effective than paying off burned collectors and trying to get repayment from scammers for all of the high-dollar fakes out there.
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01-28-2022, 11:14 PM
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Just wondering.
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01-29-2022, 12:11 AM
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Getting in bed with a company like ebay is a major boon for a company like CSG. My guess is ebay cards will be expedited through their system while their normal subs get shoved aside. I wouldn’t be surprised if eBay is interested in an in-house grading sercice and they looking at purchase opportunities.
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02-01-2022, 11:59 PM
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3 of these in the mail already. Hope it works out for the better
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05-05-2022, 12:25 PM
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Worst shipping ever. Coincidence? Still says in route to authenticator.
May 5, 2022 11:15am PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605 May 5, 2022 11:12am PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605 May 5, 2022 12:01am ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY YBOR CITY FL DISTRIBUTION CENTE, 33605 May 4, 2022 10:18pm DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824 May 4, 2022 10:08pm DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824 May 4, 2022 8:04pm ARRIVE USPS FACILITY SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824 May 4, 2022 7:46pm ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY SEMINOLE-ORLANDO FL DISTRIBUTIO, 32824 May 4, 2022 8:06am DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119 May 4, 2022 8:01am ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY MONTGOMERY AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 36119 May 4, 2022 6:16am DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203 May 4, 2022 6:09am ARRIVED AT USPS REGIONAL FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35203 May 4, 2022 5:55am DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222 May 4, 2022 5:36am DEPARTED USPS REGIONAL FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222 May 3, 2022 4:26pm PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222 May 3, 2022 11:45am PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY BIRMINGHAM AL DISTRIBUTION CENT, 35222 Apr 26, 2022 3:38pm PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115 Apr 25, 2022 7:42pm PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY LITTLE ROCK AR PACKAGE SORTING, 72115 Apr 25, 2022 5:48pm DEPART POST OFFICE SHERWOOD, AR 72120 Apr 25, 2022 3:34pm USPS in possession of item SHERWOOD, AR 72120 Apr 25, 2022 1:36pm SHIPPING LBL CREATED USPS AWAITS ITEM SHERWOOD, AR 72120 Apr 25, 2022 11:36am Tracking number provided -- T
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05-05-2022, 12:34 PM
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At least it's in the right state now. Hopefully it should be at the authenticator soon. Hopefully it doesn't go the same route from there to you. I clench my cheeks a little harder any time I have to rely on somebody else shipping out a product I had to ship to them first, before THEY ship it on to where I originally intended for it to go. On a lot of International packages I'm now forced to ship to a clearinghouse for them to put the final label and paperwork on before it goes on it's way. Whether it's through Ebay...or even Stamps.com.
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05-06-2022, 08:35 PM
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My 1st experience purchasing with the authentication service... a 4-day USPS transit, delivered in Sarasota this morning, and 4 hours later got a notice the card failed inspection and that I was refunded.
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