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01-30-2022, 11:42 AM
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Wagner is absolutely inner circle. He was the greatest player of his age and one of the inaugural 5 inducted into the HOF. He is much much more than a good player with a baseball card. And, I think Joe Jackson is deep “inner circle” re cards, even though he is not an HOFer
With respect to Pre-War (WWII), I think these are your top tier, and almost every iconic/most expensive card contains one of these people Ruth Cobb Jackson Wagner Mathewson Johnson Gehrig Young DiMaggio (goes into vintage) Williams (goes into vintage) 
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01-30-2022, 11:56 AM
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I would agree with McGraw, Eddie Collins too. Collins continues to get respect far below his statistical performance.
Robinson, Clemente and Ryan are hobby inner circle, but not performance inner circle. Clemente has almost the same statistical value as his contemporary Al Kaline. Obvious HOFer but nobody wants to put him in the inner circle. Jackie ends up being overrated and underrated at the same time somehow. He’s not the best 2B of all time, but he’s probably like 7-12 off resume, an obvious statistical hall of famer but his actual performance is rarely discussed and the focus almost solely put on being a historical first instead.
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