T213 prices vs rarities?

Rhotchkiss · #1 02-04-2022, 09:59 AM

I love the type 1s and think they should be valued on par with T206 Broadleaf or Carolina Brights.

I am not particularly fond of Type 2 and Type 3, as they were produced well after the T206 set send (1914 and 1919, respectively), and I think the registration and centering is often quite poor, especially on the type 3s. In my experience, most Type 2s are not particularly rare (certainly rarer than T206 common back examples, however). Given this fact and the fact that it is a later-released set, I dont know why they would sell for a premium, unless T206s have gotten so expensive that people are looking to Type 2s as a way to get a more affordable T206 image of a player they want.

I do have a few Type 2's and 3's, but they are solely part of player back run projects or its a super-duper rare Factory 8 overprint variation. Here are a few Type 1s

ullmandds · #2 02-04-2022, 10:38 AM

I love t213… All of them! The ones and the threes are so rare that they are cool just because of that the variation in paper stock is also quite interesting as is the connection to t206. Type to with all of the interesting team variations many unique to the set… and many are quite difficult to find. Unusual type three over Prints are tougher than almost any t206 back.

The fact that they are from Louisiana contributes to their downright scarcity. It’s similar enough to T206 that many T206 collectors have started buying them!! In my opinions it is for all of these reasons but mainly their scarcity which is why their values have finally caught up!!

Prince Hal · #3 02-04-2022, 10:53 AM

I really enjoy the T213 of all types. I have found the Type 1 to be more scarce than Type 3, but both are very tough, especially in better than a grade 3. Took me a long long time to build the full Yankees Type 2 subset. When I was a Chase chaser I grabbed these and I still enjoy them.

ullmandds · #4 02-04-2022, 11:03 AM

Any type 2 coupon is many multiples more rare than t206 counterpart in majority of cases. Id venture to say there are more T206 wagners than most any coupon type 2!

atx840 · #5 02-04-2022, 11:15 AM

DeanH3 · #6 02-04-2022, 11:15 AM

I only have 3, a Matty black cap run. There is a Factory 8 OP out there somehwere.

Exhibitman · #7 02-04-2022, 12:02 PM

The type 2s are beautiful cards:

They used to cost far less than comparable T206s, which is why I got the Cobb. As for current value and scarcity, well, last recorded sale of a T213-2 Cobb bat off in a PSA holder I found was March 2018, and last SGC one I found was in May 2020, so that's a pretty good indicator in my way of analyzing scarcity that these are tough cards.

sb1 · #8 02-04-2022, 12:28 PM

The only Type 1 I have left....

CobbSpikedMe · #9 02-04-2022, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I am not particularly fond of Type 2 and Type 3, as they were produced well after the T206 set send (1914 and 1919, respectively), and I think the registration and centering is often quite poor, especially on the type 3s. In my experience, most Type 2s are not particularly rare (certainly rarer than T206 common back examples, however). Given this fact and the fact that it is a later-released set, I dont know why they would sell for a premium, unless T206s have gotten so expensive that people are looking to Type 2s as a way to get a more affordable T206 image of a player they want.

Hi Ryan,

I think quite a few of the type 2s are fairly scarce actually. Sure, you can find a type 2 example easily enough, but looking for a specific card can be daunting in many cases. Of course I could be wrong, but I always thought even the type 2s were scarce overall. They just don't get the respect they deserve.

Also, like Peter said, all the team variations make the type 2s very cool. It's one of the few sets that you can find Federal League teams represented. Now that's awesome.

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Rhotchkiss · #10 02-04-2022, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobbSpikedMe

Hi Ryan,

I think quite a few of the type 2s are fairly scarce actually. Sure, you can find a type 2 example easily enough, but looking for a specific card can be daunting in many cases. Of course I could be wrong, but I always thought even the type 2s were scarce overall. They just don't get the respect they deserve.

I agree that Type 2 are more scare than many of the T206 backs, certainly Piedmont and Sweet Cap. And you may be right that certain Type 2 combinations are more difficult than others; I dnt know T213-2 that well but we certainly know that to be the case with T206 Old Mill, SC 150 and 350 fact 25, etc. Also, agreed the team variations are cool - I know Tinker bat off has a Nat'l and Fed variation. To me, their singular draw back is that they have T206 fronts but were not produced and distributed from 1909-11. But then again, I don't have that issue with D303s and T216s, which have the same images as E101, E101, E92, etc (although E106s kind of bother me for the reason, maybe because the backs are plain compared to D303 general baking/mothers bread and all the T216s).

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