Hobby Resilience - Long Term

Hankphenom · #1 02-22-2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzoo

I don't mean this in a arrogant way as that's not my personality, but it's not 'vague' at all to folks that have been truly paying attention the last several years. The MSM spoon feeds their narrative on a daily basis to the 'masses' as a cover story to keep us from noticing the true corruption that is destroying our country. It's worked for years, but with the mid-terms in 8 months and a social media 'change' on the horizon, the tide is slowly changing and the large amount of censorship will be coming to an end. It will be very interesting as it plays out. Again, just my opinion. Everyone's entitled to their own.

And I don't mean to be nasty, because that's not my personality at all, but my opinion of this is that it is the kind of paranoid nonsense that is actually in danger of destroying the country, or more precisely of dividing the country to the point that it destroys itself.

Foo3112 · #2 02-22-2022, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

And I don't mean to be nasty, because that's not my personality at all, but my opinion of this is that it is the kind of paranoid nonsense that is actually in danger of destroying the country, or more precisely of dividing the country to the point that it destroys itself.

+1. Leave that stuff for Gab & Parler and let's bring it back to cards.

Hankphenom · #3 02-22-2022, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by foo3112

+1. Leave that stuff for gab & parler and let's bring it back to cards.

100%

Kzoo · #4 02-22-2022, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

And I don't mean to be nasty, because that's not my personality at all, but my opinion of this is that it is the kind of paranoid nonsense that is actually in danger of destroying the country, or more precisely of dividing the country to the point that it destroys itself.

Fair enough Hank and Marc. A topic was raised, and I commented. I'm definitely not 'paranoid', just observant. We'll stick to cards.

joshleon · #5 02-22-2022, 06:10 PM

I collected coins briefly as a kid. I recall having a complete set of Franklin halves. I still remember the 49S as being the "tough" one. Looked them up on ebay last week and they sell for the exact same price as they did in 1986 (or at least as I recall). I sold the set in 1986 and bought vintage cards...

If only I had done the same with PanAm and Apple stock.

Leon · #6 02-22-2022, 06:16 PM

Thanks for sticking to cards, guys. Politics in today's world is a toxic subject.

And I feel good with my cards I have bought concerning their potential valuation. And if that doesn't happen I still have some cool baseball cards!

Hankphenom · #7 02-22-2022, 06:39 PM

I wonder what happened to stamps and coins, stagnating or even declining in value, as opposed to other collectibles that have appreciated, some exponentially, over the years. I think stamps and coins are still popular, with millions of collectors and large conventions, so what explains the difference? Maybe they're just not as much fun or as interesting as the others? They were probably the earliest major collectibles, why didn't they at least keep pace?

Mark17 · #8 02-22-2022, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I wonder what happened to stamps and coins, stagnating or even declining in value, as opposed to other collectibles that have appreciated, some exponentially, over the years. I think stamps and coins are still popular, with millions of collectors and large conventions, so what explains the difference? Maybe they're just not as much fun or as interesting as the others? They were probably the earliest major collectibles, why didn't they at least keep pace?

Take some names like Bugs Raymond, Hooks Wiltse, Nap Rucker, Rough Carrigan. Probably nobody else, of any note, has ever had these names, besides the ballplayers of the 1910 era. I would bet that every year, fewer and fewer people know who these men were. 20 or 30 years from now, far fewer people will know (or care) than today. 50 years from now, they may be completely obscure, save for a tiny number of hard core baseball historians.

Hank, we've discussed The Glory of Their Times before. I would say that book has done for tobacco era cards what the 1952 Topps Mantle has done for post war cards. So, I would say, keeping interest (and value) alive for the old common baseball cards keys on keeping alive the history of the game during that era, through books and movies.

Hankphenom · #9 02-22-2022, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17

Hank, we've discussed The Glory of Their Times before. I would say that book has done for tobacco era cards what the 1952 Topps Mantle has done for post war cards. So, I would say, keeping interest (and value) alive for the old common baseball cards keys on keeping alive the history of the game during that era, through books and movies.

Yes, Mark, I've always thought that the publication of Larry's book followed shortly thereafter by the beginnings of collecting conventions, SABR meetings, and other manifestations of a heightened interest in baseball history is no coincidence. And baseball and other cards had a long history before that, some of the few mass collectibles you could point to along with stamps and coins, there just wasn't much organization or money to it. I've wondered on occasion if you had a nice Babe Ruth signed baseball in say, 1955, and wanted to sell it, where would you go and what could you get for it? I'd guess an antiques dealer might give you fifty bucks and try to sell it for a hundred, but even that might be overstating the market at that time for something that could buy your kid a college education today.

BobC · #10 02-22-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I wonder what happened to stamps and coins, stagnating or even declining in value, as opposed to other collectibles that have appreciated, some exponentially, over the years. I think stamps and coins are still popular, with millions of collectors and large conventions, so what explains the difference? Maybe they're just not as much fun or as interesting as the others? They were probably the earliest major collectibles, why didn't they at least keep pace?

Baseball, Football, Basketball, Antiques Roadshow, American Pickers, Storage Wars, etc. all on TV and cable and generating public interest. But even with all these shows, can't remember when I last saw coins or stamps on any of them.

Mike D. · #11 02-22-2022, 07:43 PM

On stamps and coins...you gotta remember, there are people right now who are adults who probably have handled coins and/or stamps a handful of times in their lives.

OK, "a handful" is probably an exaggeration, but these days you can probably go MONTHS without touching either a stamp or a coin.

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