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View Poll Results: Should this buyer be banned for these 2 lies?
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:37 AM
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Isn't this supposed to be the new era of personal accountability? Thumbs down.
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Old 03-02-2022, 09:47 AM
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I think integrity on this site matters a lot, I would keep the ban. Not the kind of behavior want to excuse or deal with.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:20 AM
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Isn't this supposed to be the new era of personal accountability? Thumbs down.
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, but I'm not seeing personal responsibility anywhere!! I sure wish you were right!
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:33 AM
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Allow member to come clean in this thread, and then reinstate fully. If he's a good boy then all will be forgotten by the weekend
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Allow member to come clean in this thread, and then reinstate fully. If he's a good boy then all will be forgotten by the weekend
I don't know about all being forgotten but I have made this offer to the buyer. If he does, I would lean towards reinstatement. If not, I am leaning the other way....but the jury is still out.

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Yes; broken window policing theory.
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:03 AM
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Leon, I don't envy you having to make these decisions. Thank you for taking on this load so that we can have a place to discuss our hobby.

About the name, to me, the severity of the mistake matters. If his name was Tim, but he typed Tom, or he flip flopped his first and last names, maybe he's just a bad typist, or he misread the form. But if he gave his name as Mickey Mouse, well, that's different.

For the buyer's remorse, I think a suspension from the BST is in order, and if he becomes a repeat offender, ban him from the site.
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:20 AM
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Leon

As others said we trust you and I agree I would not want to have to make that decision myself but since the forum votes and most agree with the ban it is more a group decision.
OR if you feel on the fence then ban that person for a period of time and then let them back in after time served
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:41 AM
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I look at these situations in many different ways...
The following reply would be one of them!

I believe in sincerity... or lack there of!
Forgiveness with the opportunity to rejoin the community
is at Leon's discretion...

Forgiveness through banishment is also Mr Leon's weight to bare...

He's been doing this fir quite some time now!

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Old 03-02-2022, 12:06 PM
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Default I like the decision in part

To me it comes down to facts and intent.

1) Name - facts sound clear - he didn't use his name - intent? Was there an intent to deceive - based on the fact that he didn't (deceive) anyone and did put his name in at some point this seems like good reason for a second chance on the boards with a public apology (as decided).

2) BST transaction - Are the facts clear? Did he admit to knowing there was no crack and just had buyers remorse? If so, I would support a time-limited (3 month, 6 month?) ban from the BST. If it's not clear that it was buyers remorse and could have been an honest mistake then I think the decision as made stands.
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Old 03-02-2022, 11:28 AM
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Allow member to come clean in this thread, and then reinstate fully. If he's a good boy then all will be forgotten by the weekend
Break out the popcorn! Reinstatement isn't guaranteed though.
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People deserve second chances. I'd give him a second chance, though with conditions.

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Break out the popcorn! Reinstatement isn't guaranteed though.
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Never mind, I edited out my comment because it made no sense.

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