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[KMayUSA6060]

May I ask what is so harmful about questioning MSM/news in general?

[jgannon]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

May I ask what is so harmful about questioning MSM/news in general?

You'll be called a Russian stooge, or an anti-vaxxer, etc.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by jgannon

You'll be called a Russian stooge, or an anti-vaxxer, etc.

You only get called a Russian stooge when you say you believe Russia's claim that they were promised NATO wouldn't expand to the east, can't provide anything to support that claim, and then say it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. They you're called a Russian stooge because you ARE a Russian stooge.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

May I ask what is so harmful about questioning MSM/news in general?

Nothing. The entire basis of human advancement has come from questioning things.

It’s when someone question something, then ignores the it’s verifiable by things like facts, numbers, maths, primary sources, physically verifiable evidence and decides that is “fake” “mis-information” or something else they had someone read to them in coloring book I just because sigh for devolution of humanity.

That’s me though. Could be an outlier or just cynical. Either way I just wish I didn’t see dead kids daily being pulled out cluster bombed apartment buildings across Ukraine or anywhere else for that matter.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Nothing. The entire basis of human advancement has come from questioning things.

It’s when someone question something, then ignores the it’s verifiable by things like facts, numbers, maths, primary sources, physically verifiable evidence and decides that is “fake” “mis-information” or something else they had someone read to them in coloring book I just because sigh for devolution of humanity.

That’s me though. Could be an outlier or just cynical. Either way I just wish I didn’t see dead kids daily being pulled out cluster bombed apartment buildings across Ukraine or anywhere else for that matter.

What verifiable facts have come out about the Russia/Ukraine situation?

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

What verifiable facts have come out about the Russia/Ukraine situation?

Just gonna throw a wild guess at the wall and say thousands of things reported over the past two weeks, but if you want specifics I’ll go with “your Visa debit card won’t work at the Kremlin gift shop.” That’s a good solid one.

[egri]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Just gonna throw a wild guess at the wall and say thousands of things reported over the past two weeks, but if you want specifics I’ll go with “your Visa debit card won’t work at the Kremlin gift shop.” That’s a good solid one.

Or American Express. Though MasterCard and Discover might still.

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by egri

Or American Express. Though MasterCard and Discover might still.

Don’t think American Express is throughout Europe. When I was last in the UK and Ireland no one took it.

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Just gonna throw a wild guess at the wall and say thousands of things reported over the past two weeks, but if you want specifics I’ll go with “your Visa debit card won’t work at the Kremlin gift shop.” That’s a good solid one.

What specifically? I've heard a lot of narratives, not so much "verifiable facts".

[sbfinley]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

What specifically? I've heard a lot of narratives, not so much "verifiable facts".

I’m not your tutor or baby sitter. If for two weeks the only coverage of the war you’ve processed is “narrative” you’re either lying, slow, or oblivious. If it’s “oblivious” I’ll point you to The Institute for the Study of War. Their daily recaps of the war are pretty sound and in depth. If it’s one of the other two I can’t help you at all. Sorry.

[irv]

Retired U.S. Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor's take and some clarity on the fake news that is being spread by MSM.

"TOP ARMY COLONEL: ‘PUPPET’ ZELENSKY PUTTING HIS PEOPLE AT "UNNECESSARY RISK"
https://rumble.com/vwkbrv-top-army-c...-risk-608.html

[KMayUSA6060]

You can both hate innocent people dying and question things.

Imagine if there were this much outcry against Obama when he let Russia take Crimea (and Georgia, or was that Bush?).

Imagine if the US were to invade sovereign countries under the guise of "saving them", and kill innocent people. Oh wait...

Y'all aren't wrong for hating war. But before you go calling people "Russian stooges" or insinuating others are terrorist apologists, you should be able to answer every question possible.

Why is Zelenskyy being dubbed a hero when all he has done is refuse to negotiate with Russia, then force 18-60 year old makes to stay and fight? He takes opportunistic photos that are nothing but propaganda, yet claims to be on the front lines.

Speaking of Zelenskyy, how closely is he tied to Burisma, the same company that has Hunter Biden, CIA people, etc. all on their board? The owner of the network that produced his show which he rose to fame through is on that board as well.

What does Nordstrom 2 have to do with this?

If what Putin is doing is so atrocious, why haven't US/NATO forces stepped in? If we don't want war but want to protect innocent people, why did we declare war via sanctions and leave the innocent people all but defenseless?

Have people forgotten the level of corruption and meddling the US has done in Ukraine? Or Soros's love of Ukraine?

Why did Obama/Biden allow the Clintons to sell uranium to the Russians?

Why did Biden kill our energy independence, only to buy Russian energy exports?


I'm focused on our involvement in this "conflict". Our government is as much to blame as anyone, yet I don't hear any of that coming from the MSM/news.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

May I ask what is so harmful about questioning MSM/news in general?

For me, personally, nothing! Everything I read I try to weigh with logic and take with a grain of salt. For me, personally, though, you* lose me when you start saying things like "open your eyes" and "they're all lying to you" and "truth!!" and then you post clips from InfoWars. InfoWars?? The Truth??? Sure...

Ken

PS: You* is a generic somebody/you, not Kyle/you.

[AustinMike]

Originally Posted by KMayUSA6060

May I ask what is so harmful about questioning MSM/news in general?

There is absolutely nothing wrong or harmful about questioning MSM/news in general. In fact, I would encourage it.

It's only when you decide that everything MSM says is a lie and everything you read on Facebook or see on YouTube is the Truth that is harmful.

Then you get in a situation where you claim the US promised Russia that NATO would not expand to the east, get called on it, can't provide any proof, and then say it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. You become a stooge.