T206 Wagner and Plank - They both didn't want their image on Tobacco cards

mrvster · #1 03-17-2022, 10:45 PM

Yes.....350 will be explained by Sean....

I will let my friends explain...

HOFERs.....in this set T206, is Doyle a huge name????

look at that value???

Plank is the buy right now, total sleeper...

HOF Auto Rookies · #2 03-17-2022, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster

Yes.....350 will be explained by Sean....

I will let my friends explain...

HOFERs.....in this set T206, is Doyle a huge name????

look at that value???

Plank is the buy right now, total sleeper...

I'm not saying it isn't a good buy or not. I have only replied to the value disparity. The Doyle value has nothing to do with the player, has to do with the error. Same with Magee.

I do agree though that Plank is an incredibly good buy with huge room to grow.

mrvster · #3 03-17-2022, 10:47 PM

YES!!!!

Doyle will prove that

Sean · #4 03-17-2022, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrvster

Yes.....350 will be explained by Sean....

I will let my friends explain...

HOFERs.....in this set T206, is Doyle a huge name????

look at that value???

Plank is the buy right now, total sleeper...

I believe that Plank did deny ATC the use of his name and picture, just as Wagner did. It's possible that Plank was included in the 350 Series by mistake. The printers may have forgotten that they weren't supposed to use Plank. When someone realized the error the card was removed from production for a second time.

Since there are more 350 Series Planks than 150 Series, there should be significantly more Planks than Wagners.....at least twice as many. That still leaves them being ultra-scarce in relation to the demand for the Planks.

Rhotchkiss · #5 03-17-2022, 11:29 PM

I will post later on the topic, but (1) I love that card Sean!, and (2) here is version my son did about 5 years ago

G1911 · #6 03-17-2022, 11:32 PM

It is entirely possible that Plank refused to allow the use of his image, they printed his card even without his signature (like the Ball and Hyland letters), Plank issued a cease and desist, American Lithography pulled his card, American Lithography then issued his card in the 350 series again, Plank sent another cease and desist or American Lithography pulled it without a second cease and desist.

I have not seen any evidence that any of these single events actually happened though, much less this chain. It is a possibility, one among many, unless there is some significant primary source evidence I am not aware of.

I don't think the plate theory is more likely than that American Lithography twice printed a card for Plank even though they didn't have his rights, and had a cease and desist order.

Some pulled American Lithography cards have some evidence (Wagner, the time period article on it being pulled), very strong circumstantial that supports a theory though it can hardly be said to be a fact (T227 Rodgers & Brown, their deaths), and others where there doesn't seem to be reasonable grounds to assert a theory is correct (T206 Plank, T220 Donovan & Corbett, etc.).

mrvster · #7 03-17-2022, 11:38 PM

outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

G1- Ryan will explain

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