NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-25-2022, 01:07 PM
Luke's Avatar
Luke Luke is offline
Luke Lyon
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seattle
Posts: 4,252
Default

I think we are getting too hung up on looking at the backs of the cards. Elberfeld, Dahlen and Browne are all in the 150-350 Series or Print Group 1 because they were all in the first group. Dahlen Boston was just replaced with Dahlen Brooklyn on the sheets as the 150-350 Series played out.

The term "350 Only Series", or "Print Group 2" means something very specific. It refers to this group of poses:

https://t206resource.com/Print%20Gro...Checklist.html

That's all it means.

-Cobb red background was printed with a Piedmont 350 back, but it's a not a part of Print Group 2. It's in Print Group 5.

-Dahlen Brooklyn was printed with a Piedmont 350 back but it's not a part of Print Group 2. It's a Part of Print Group 1.

-Rhoades Arm Extended was printed with a Piedmont 350 back but it is not a part of Print Group 2. It's in Print Group 3.

The last bunch of posts are people looking at the same data and making up their own terms to describe what we're talking about. We don't need to make up new ways to describe this stuff. The Print Group framework is already established and available for anyone to refer to. Its simple and elegant and perfectly explains the timelines of the various series. Understanding the Print Groups is the key to a deep understanding of the patterns within the set.

Here are the checklists:

https://t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html
__________________
ThatT206Life.com

Last edited by Luke; 03-25-2022 at 01:08 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-25-2022, 01:33 PM
HobokenJon HobokenJon is offline
Jonathan Weil
Jon.than We.il
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 192
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke View Post
I think we are getting too hung up on looking at the backs of the cards. Elberfeld, Dahlen and Browne are all in the 150-350 Series or Print Group 1 because they were all in the first group. Dahlen Boston was just replaced with Dahlen Brooklyn on the sheets as the 150-350 Series played out.

The term "350 Only Series", or "Print Group 2" means something very specific. It refers to this group of poses:

https://t206resource.com/Print%20Gro...Checklist.html

That's all it means.

-Cobb red background was printed with a Piedmont 350 back, but it's a not a part of Print Group 2. It's in Print Group 5.

-Dahlen Brooklyn was printed with a Piedmont 350 back but it's not a part of Print Group 2. It's a Part of Print Group 1.

-Rhoades Arm Extended was printed with a Piedmont 350 back but it is not a part of Print Group 2. It's in Print Group 3.

The last bunch of posts are people looking at the same data and making up their own terms to describe what we're talking about. We don't need to make up new ways to describe this stuff. The Print Group framework is already established and available for anyone to refer to. Its simple and elegant and perfectly explains the timelines of the various series. Understanding the Print Groups is the key to a deep understanding of the patterns within the set.

Here are the checklists:

https://t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html
Hear! Hear!

Now if we could just get T206 Resource to correct all the false positives in its Sovereign and EPDG checklists.
See related article here:
http://www.thatt206life.com/2017/03/...gn-350-a-hoax/

For more on the six poses that were pulled early from the 350-460 series (a.k.a. Print Group 3), see here, also by Luke: http://www.thatt206life.com/2018/07/...50-460-series/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-25-2022, 02:02 PM
Pat R's Avatar
Pat R Pat R is offline
P@trick R.omolo
member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,512
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HobokenJon View Post
Hear! Hear!

Now if we could just get T206 Resource to correct all the false positives in its Sovereign and EPDG checklists.
See related article here:
http://www.thatt206life.com/2017/03/...gn-350-a-hoax/

For more on the six poses that were pulled early from the 350-460 series (a.k.a. Print Group 3), see here, also by Luke: http://www.thatt206life.com/2018/07/...50-460-series/
The Sovereign list was corrected over a year ago Jon.

https://www.t206resource.com/Soverei...Checklist.html
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-25-2022, 02:33 PM
HobokenJon HobokenJon is offline
Jonathan Weil
Jon.than We.il
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 192
Default Hooray for T206 Resource! (But one set of false positives left to go...)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat R View Post
The Sovereign list was corrected over a year ago Jon.

https://www.t206resource.com/Soverei...Checklist.html
Excellent! That's great news! I had no idea, and I gladly stand corrected. I started agitating about five years ago. I guess I hadn't checked the Sovereign 350 list on T206 Resource in the last year or so.

Now if only we could get T206 Resource to correct the false positives on the EPDG list (Pastorius, Hunky Shaw and Willett).
https://www.t206resource.com/EPDG%20Checklist.html

Last edited by HobokenJon; 03-25-2022 at 02:37 PM. Reason: Clarifying penultimate sentence
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-25-2022, 05:13 PM
Pat R's Avatar
Pat R Pat R is offline
P@trick R.omolo
member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,512
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HobokenJon View Post
Excellent! That's great news! I had no idea, and I gladly stand corrected. I started agitating about five years ago. I guess I hadn't checked the Sovereign 350 list on T206 Resource in the last year or so.

Now if only we could get T206 Resource to correct the false positives on the EPDG list (Pastorius, Hunky Shaw and Willett).
https://www.t206resource.com/EPDG%20Checklist.html
It usually takes awhile but it has been requested. The only confirmation I could find on any of them was the Willett and that was a mistake in a 2006 EPDG thread on the old board.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Know the No-Prints of the EPDG cards in the 150 Series of the T206 set...... tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 25 03-18-2022 07:04 AM
Interesting NO-PRINT group of T206 Carolina Brights - EPDG - Old Mill - Polar Bear tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 01-23-2019 06:41 PM
T206....PIEDMONT vs EPDG cards in 350 series and 460 series tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 11 10-07-2017 10:38 PM
FS: group of 6 EPDG commons trobba T206 cards B/S/T 0 10-22-2014 10:00 AM
T206 Brown OLD MILL's....Prints vs No-Prints tedzan Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 26 05-27-2010 09:39 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:04 AM.


ebay GSB