New CSG label. Pretty slick...

JustinD · #1 03-25-2022, 04:10 PM

I honestly think the current design is hideous and easily the worst on the market. The bad heat seals on the penny sleeve inside are often done so poorly they detract even more than the label which has as much effort as a page header in a high school newspaper.

That said the new design is SO MUCH better, I hope they downsized the case to a more traditional length. I did also love the subgrades but very bummed they are removed unless it is a 10 and that seems pointless as they are likely doing this so it's just 4 - 10s to save labor.

Here is the quote from the release - "CSG will continue to assign the CSG Perfect 10 grade to the best of the best, which will have flawless centering, corners, edges and surface. However, now all cards that merit a CSG Perfect 10 will receive sub-grades by default for free, with no special request required. Sub-grades will be discontinued for other grades."

Exhibitman · #2 03-25-2022, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD

That said the new design is SO MUCH better, I hope they downsized the case to a more traditional length.

The exterior dimensions of the holder are exactly the same as PSA's holder. It looks longer because the part of the PSA holder that is dead space is taken up with the larger label for doing Beckett-style subgrades. I am sure that the black borders were chosen to try and neutralize all that white.

See what I mean?

What you are really asking for is a reconfiguration of the internal dimensions. That would require a complete redo of the moulds and dies, and that it is so expensive that it is never going to happen.

As for the holder itself, far and away nicer than the PSA shell. The fully polished surface looks very sharp BUT you have to keep it clean. I wipe them down with a glasses cleaning cloth and immediately get them into fitted PSA sleeves.

Just for giggles, let's see some old-school holders. Here's an early SGC:

ullmandds · #3 03-25-2022, 10:14 PM

I think the font can be improved upon...and just remove this silly vertical line and we're pretty happy!!!!

Snowman · #4 03-25-2022, 10:30 PM

I wonder how long the line for reholders is going to be?

Snowman · #5 03-25-2022, 10:45 PM

I think even better than the much improved flip is the fact that they ditched the BGS grading scale. Collectors just don't like it. The hobby has made that abundantly clear over the past couple years. People want a Gem Mint card to say 10 on the flip, not 9.5.

aconte · #6 03-27-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman

I wonder how long the line for reholders is going to be?

Why throw good money after bad?

jakebeckleyoldeagleeye · #7 03-27-2022, 03:45 PM

Still prefer the look of the BVG holders myself.

philliesfan · #8 03-27-2022, 04:54 PM

When are the new holders available? I have a submission that should be at my post Office tomorrow and I sure hope thay are in the new slabs.
Thanks,
Bob

JustinD · #9 03-25-2022, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The exterior dimensions of the holder are exactly the same as PSA's holder. It looks longer because the part of the PSA holder that is dead space is taken up with the larger label for doing Beckett-style subgrades. I am sure that the black borders were chosen to try and neutralize all that white.

You are of course right. I dug up the only CSG that has made it into my collection so far and I have been falling for an optical illusion because of that oversized flip.

It is indeed annoying to me personally as it is so large and garish, but to each their own. I fall in the minority by a mile as I far and away prefer Beckett slabs. The quality and weight is there and the flip is minimal. So if someone appreciates the appeal of CSG as I saw in other comments, I don't have a leg to stand on.

As per the status quo of my posts...it's always "just my opinion",

I will fall back on my original comment of that I do like the change and hope for more improvements in the future. For the time being if it's a beautiful card in the green holster, there's a decent chance it's coming out, lol.

Hankphenom · #10 03-26-2022, 09:33 AM

The card they show has complimentary colors. Not sure how the yellow and green graphics will match with red, purple, etc. cards. SGC, all green and black, was the classiest, in my meaningless opinion. Cards actually look their best all by themselves, but that horse has left the barn.

Clutch-Hitter · #11 03-26-2022, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The exterior dimensions of the holder are exactly the same as PSA's holder. It looks longer because the part of the PSA holder that is dead space is taken up with the larger label for doing Beckett-style subgrades. I am sure that the black borders were chosen to try and neutralize all that white.

See what I mean?

What you are really asking for is a reconfiguration of the internal dimensions. That would require a complete redo of the moulds and dies, and that it is so expensive that it is never going to happen.

As for the holder itself, far and away nicer than the PSA shell. The fully polished surface looks very sharp BUT you have to keep it clean. I wipe them down with a glasses cleaning cloth and immediately get them into fitted PSA sleeves.

Just for giggles, let's see some old-school holders. Here's an early SGC:

1938 Goudey R323 269 by Greg Martin, on Flickr

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