Is obnoxious the new normal for newbie collectors?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Seems like many newer collectors' default setting is "jerk". My experience is that the obnoxiousness of the card 'bros' is the rule rather than the exception. Example: I posted a 19th century card for sale with the following notice in big, bold red letters:

NOTE: IN MY OPINION THIS CARD HAS BEEN TRIMMED. BID ACCORDINGLY.

I get this PM:

"Oh, your opinion. Super reliable. Why don't you put a 30 cent ruler next to it and verify."

Really?

Anyhow, rant over. Remain calm and keep bidding.

LOL, maybe he thought you were trying to get one over on him by selling him an untrimmed card. He wanted to make damn sure that card was trimmed.


I think I prefer the up front assholes to the compulsively passive liars. At least they don't waste your time. Just had to relist an item today from an unpaid bidder.

A week in after multiple invoices and I'm just about to Cancel, I get a "Sorry, just got your message, been in the hospital, will pay Thursday".

OK cool, I feel like I've heard that one before, but I give them another chance. Let it slide because I'm going away on vacation for a week anyways and I don't really want them paying when I'm gone anyhow. Come back, more invoices sent and........crickets.

Got curious, check out their spotless 3000+ feedback and see they've been very active buying (and somewhat active selling) over the past month. I see a Negative/Positive from another seller sprinkled in for non-payment. Hospital my ass. You over-extended yourself and strung me along hoping I wouldn't file for non-payment.

Couldn't do anything but cancel, block, and stew over a $135 transaction that wasted nearly a month of my headspace.

[conor912]

Some people have no idea how to enter a room other than as a wrecking ball.

[Republicaninmass]

Not just newbies, Plenty of old timers as well!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Purely anecdotal, but I've found (here, ebay and elsewhere) that this issue seems to correlate with a general difference between a "collector" vs "investor" mentality as well.

Collectors have been so much more kind and appreciative of the opportunity to add to their collection by buying from me, or to help me add to mine by selling to me....many investors couldn't care less about any of this because it's all about the $$$.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Purely anecdotal, but I've found (here, ebay and elsewhere) that this issue seems to correlate with a general difference between a "collector" vs "investor" mentality as well.

Collectors have been so much more kind and appreciative of the opportunity to add to their collection by buying from me, or to help me add to mine by selling to me....many investors couldn't care less about any of this because it's all about the $$$.

I could not agree more.

It seems to be a badge of honor. Deep, bottomless pockets and then flaunt what a great deal, patting themselves and their clique buddies on the back, paying ungodly sums for the latest pick up. Even extolling the virtues of paying insanely more than than they could have paid elsewhere for the same old cardboard trinket. But that's what it means to be in the clique. Yeah, whatever.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Purely anecdotal, but I've found (here, ebay and elsewhere) that this issue seems to correlate with a general difference between a "collector" vs "investor" mentality as well.

Collectors have been so much more kind and appreciative of the opportunity to add to their collection by buying from me, or to help me add to mine by selling to me....many investors couldn't care less about any of this because it's all about the $$$.

A very tenured forum member once told me he only collects greenbacks. To that I say, best of luck to you!
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[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Leon

A very tenured forum member once told me he only collects greenbacks. To that I say, best of luck to you!
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This thread needs a card, doesn't it...

[japhi]

Guess it depends on your definition of obnoxious, but I've been in the hobby since I was maybe ten and it has always been full of man-children. From the guy that ripped me off when I was 12, trading me photocopies of worthless prints, to the rude dealers set up at shows, to all the scammers that infect the hobby. The new card bro's may be annoying, but this hobby, at least for 40 years, has always been obnoxious.

[jingram058]

Originally Posted by japhi

Guess it depends on your definition of obnoxious, but I've been in the hobby since I was maybe ten and it has always been full of man-children. From the guy that ripped me off when I was 12, trading me photocopies of worthless prints, to the rude dealers set up at shows, to all the scammers that infect the hobby. The new card bro's may be annoying, but this hobby, at least for 40 years, has always been obnoxious.

Could not agree more. Well said! Add this to it: if I'm buying cards, they're through the roof. If I'm selling, they're worthless, pennies on the dollar. The buyer is doing me a favor taking them off my hands.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by japhi

Guess it depends on your definition of obnoxious, but I've been in the hobby since I was maybe ten and it has always been full of man-children. From the guy that ripped me off when I was 12, trading me photocopies of worthless prints, to the rude dealers set up at shows, to all the scammers that infect the hobby. The new card bro's may be annoying, but this hobby, at least for 40 years, has always been obnoxious.

I would agree.

Alan Rosen anyone?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Tabe

I would agree.

Alan Rosen anyone?

Yeah, Mr. Mint set the bar for obnoxiousness, didn't he?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

He wanted to make damn sure that card was trimmed.

Right? How weird was that? What he's saying is "prove it is trimmed."