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Old 04-12-2022, 01:21 PM
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I agree I love the look of that Buck Weaver Card and sharp colors
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Could someone fill me in on why general consensus is certain that Collins wasn't involved?

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Could someone fill me in on why general consensus is certain that Collins wasn't involved?

Eddie Collins was not involved. Or least not that any one knows of. He was never banned like the Famous 8 and he is actually in the HOF while the others were banned for life from MLB baseball
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I just cosigned and sold most of my Black Sox cards to pursue other endeavors (including my 1915 Zeenuts of Risberg and McMullin to REA) but will never part with this one...1917 Bill Burns Zeenut
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Hi Ted!

I hope that all is well with you. Is that T206 Chick Sovereign in your first post missing the red color pass?

Great cards Ted (and everyone else as well!!
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Hi Ted!

I hope that all is well with you. Is that T206 Chick Sovereign in your first post missing the red color pass?

Great cards Ted (and everyone else as well!!

Great to hear from you, Steve

That was an old scan taken with my old scanner 14 years ago. Here is a scan of the PIEDMONT and SOVEREIGN Gandil's taken this evening with my new scanner.

The SOVEREIGN version has just a tinge of red (or is it pink ink).


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Eddie Collins was not involved. Or least not that any one knows of. He was never banned like the Famous 8 and he is actually in the HOF while the others were banned for life from MLB baseball
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I guess my uncertainty is that without being in the room that the discussions were happening, some of who was or wasn't involved is hearsay. Were there multiple, definitive, under oath statements that cleared Collins from any suspicion?
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I guess my uncertainty is that without being in the room that the discussions were happening, some of who was or wasn't involved is hearsay. Were there multiple, definitive, under oath statements that cleared Collins from any suspicion?
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I am sure you can google and find more history about it. But other were suspended for life for their roles and he was not. He not only was not suspended but kept playing to a great HOF career.

Remember technically the 8 were acquitted in the courts but Landry the New Commisioner took the facts he had in front of him and made his decision.

And the rest is history
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Your Obak Weaver is a real stunner! What a beautiful card. Thanks for posting.
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Buck Weaver is my favorite OBAK card, too......along with Ten Million.


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Am a bit embarrassed to admit that I'm not sure if this photo is mine or that I just scabbed the jpeg from the internet. My collection is a tad disorganized. Either way Happy Landis belongs in this thread.



Plus some more of Buck Weaver . .











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Charles A. "Chick" Gandil. First baseman for the Washington Senators in 1912-1915. 1,176 hits and 151 stolen bases in 9 MLB seasons. 1917 World Series champion. He led AL first baseman in fielding percentage 4 times. He debuted with the Chicago White Sox in 1910. His best season was 1913 with Washington as he posted a .363 OBP with 72 RBI's and 22 stolen bases in 603 plate appearances. He finished his career with the Chicago White Sox in 1917-1919. He is best known as the "ringleader" of the players involved in the 1919 Black Sox scandal.

From Gandil's SABR biography: Prior to his infamous involvement in the 1919 Black Sox Scandal, Chick Gandil was one of the most highly regarded first basemen in the American League, both for his play on the field and his solid work ethic. In 1916 a Cleveland newspaper described Gandil as “a most likeable player, and one of excellent habits.” From 1912 to 1915 the right-handed Gandil starred for the Washington Senators, leading the club in runs batted in three times and batting .293. In the field Gandil paced American League first sackers in fielding percentage four times and in assists three times.

He continued his strong work with the Chicago White Sox from 1917 to 1919, helping the club to two American League pennants before forever tarnishing his legacy by helping to fix the 1919 World Series. Yet Gandil may have been the only banished player who gained more than he lost from the fix. After the 1919 World Series, the first baseman retired from major-league baseball, reportedly taking $35,000 in cash with him.

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David, I always thought this was a great photo of Landis...I sometimes like to attach it to my posts to make sure my disgust/disapproval is properly and effectively expressed.

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In any sad tale, there needs to be an antagonist that pushes individuals to extreme, regretful measures. Charles Comiskey serves in this capacity for the Black Sox, and shall be known forever in this thread as the 'Tightwad Disgruntler of the Disgruntled'.

Brian (M101 blank back, either M101-4 or M101-5...who knows).

Post-script...Todd knows! It is a M101-4. Because in M101-4, Comiskey has his name spelled correctly, while in M101-5, his last name is missing the 'e'. I have just enough of the bottom of this card to make this identification.

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Lefty is a tough one, I'd love to see what you got! Hugh High seems like a stand-up guy, despite having played for the Yankees, so it's just this one and a W514 in my Pete Rose lunchbox....
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