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Old 04-17-2022, 10:39 AM
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I have centering OCD so that along with registration and color are the most important factors to me. Add those three together and you get "eye appeal".
Phil and Ian, speak for me as well.

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Old 04-17-2022, 10:48 AM
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Centering is a factory flaw and as such is not a very big factor. Hell, some T206 people will give massive premiums for oc cards. Handling AFTER a card leaves the factory means much more. Creasing is a major factor for me and paper loss, residue, pin holes or writing is a deal breaker. So bring me your 90/10 and gum stained stars!
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Centering is a factory flaw and as such is not a very big factor. Hell, some T206 people will give massive premiums for oc cards. Handling AFTER a card leaves the factory means much more. Creasing is a major factor for me and paper loss, residue, pin holes or writing is a deal breaker. So bring me your 90/10 and gum stained stars!
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Old 04-18-2022, 03:47 PM
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For me it really depends on the set and some times on the particular card. I care more about centering on T205s than on 1933 Goudeys for example (different shape, white border), and image color/clarity is always by far the most important thing for me. When buying my 1951 Mays (rookie card of my favorite player), I wanted to make sure there were no print defects (really hard on that card), no wax stains, and great color and registration. Had to give up a little on centering to get it, but I still love this card:
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Way down the list for me. I like cards that are really hard to find, so when I'm able to get a shot at them, I'm not too picky about condition. Pinholes, missing pieces and paper loss bug me, but centering doesn't. It's always nice when I find one and it has nice centering though.
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For me it really depends on the set and some times on the particular card. I care more about centering on T205s than on 1933 Goudeys for example (different shape, white border), and image color/clarity is always by far the most important thing for me. When buying my 1951 Mays (rookie card of my favorite player), I wanted to make sure there were no print defects (really hard on that card), no wax stains, and great color and registration. Had to give up a little on centering to get it, but I still love this card:
Jeremy - That's a gorgeous Mays.
I've always felt that if a card is going to be OC that when the player faces the wide border side in the image it fairs better on eye appeal then when he faces the narrow border side.
Examine a few card scans you see and test that for yourself.
The Mays, for instance seems right.
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Jeremy - That's a gorgeous Mays.
I've always felt that if a card is going to be OC that when the player faces the wide border side in the image it fairs better on eye appeal then when he faces the narrow border side.
Examine a few card scans you see and test that for yourself.
The Mays, for instance seems right.
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centered raw card...no mistaking that puppy for an E99! If I erase it, it won't get a "mk" LOL...although, without having it in hand, that could be one of those old, lead pencil marks that won't come off
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Personally, I generally buy on eye appeal and one of the biggest components, if not the biggest for me, is centering. I will take a small flaw or two, but centering is what my eyes focus on. And of course with many cards I/we collect we have to take what we can find (hence the beater thread).

I really like cards with somewhat of a wow factor, so to speak...
They have to be paid up for but I don't think I have ever regretted it.
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To me, bad centering or poor focus is a defect in the card at birth in the factory. I want the card as it was intended by design: centered and focused. In contrast, in terms of corners, the card was intended to be handled by young people; hence some corner wear has always felt totally acceptable to me.

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Old 04-17-2022, 11:19 AM
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As others have already stated superior color and registration is key when I'm looking for a card.

In regards to centering, its very important to me as well. Although I have a little bit of tolerance when it comes to top to bottom centering, side to side centering must be close to near perfect.
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I judge a card on five broad categories. The following is my order of preference:

Print Quality - (Registration/focus/color, etc.)
Surface - (how clean and free from damage are the surfaces)
Centering
Edges
Corners

Notable is the fact that extreme examples of extremely poor centering or print quality appeal to me, too. I enjoy seeing two (or more) images on the same card.
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Depends on the series. If it’s a series that is near impossible to find a card of, or if it’s “that” player, I am willing to overlook things that I would not overlook in a more prevalent card or series. Here’s an example of a card I’m just happy to have one, regardless of it’s flaws:
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Come join me over on the dark side. Some may call them off-center, while others might call them miscut. I just call them cards.

WARNING! Do not look at the below cards if you know it will spoil your day.

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Come join me over on the dark side. Some may call them off-center, while others might call them miscut. I just call them cards.

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For me, it's:

centering >>> surface/registration > edges > corners
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My opinion will not be revealed here. Who cares?

Everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it. If centering was all that mattered, we would not need TPGs so I guess that's a good thing.
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I like centered cards, but how much it matters really depends on all other attributes of a card, particularly its beauty and registration. I find lots of eye appeal in some cards that aren’t perfectly centered. Creases however always disturb me, and i prefer off-center with great registration to creased, weathered and well-centered. Here are a few cards which i cherish despite the fact that they arent centered better (every thread needs some cards!):
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I like centered cards, but how much it matters really depends on all other attributes of a card, particularly its beauty and registration. I find lots of eye appeal in some cards that aren’t perfectly centered. Creases however always disturb me, and i prefer off-center with great registration to creased, weathered and well-centered. Here are a few cards which i cherish despite the fact that they arent centered better (every thread needs some cards!):
As a centering guy I would still love that CJ Joe— the image is so crisp and the color so bold, it just "pops" and I don't even notice the centering.

Leon, beefy borders on that red Cy. And always been a fan of that Ted Williams; if not mistaken you landed that on the BST board? Exceptional and rare centering for that card.
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Come join me over on the dark side. Some may call them off-center, while others might call them miscut. I just call them cards.

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Those are WAY better than centered cards. Centering is by far the least important to me, unless I am selling it.
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Come join me over on the dark side. Some may call them off-center, while others might call them miscut. I just call them cards.

WARNING! Do not look at the below cards if you know it will spoil your day.

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I mainly collect prewar, and no 1 for me is surface, especially dirt. Tons of prewar cards are just direty (stained, gum, tobacco, thrown in a sand box).

That trumps all other things.
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