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04-17-2022, 10:59 PM
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I don't collect cards, but there are still a few sports collecting stories I can share.
Brimfield, Mass flea market mid 1990's. At that time I was mainly buying and selling Civil War related signatures, documents and the such. I collected the 4 main sports in person in and around Boston. I was at the Brimfield flea market during the July event. I walked up to a table manned by an older man and his wife. It was filled with postal covers and similar items. He had some items I wanted immediately so I put them aside. I was looking at his first day covers and spotted the 1939 baseball one. It was signed. I stared at it for a few minutes then it hit me: Johnny Evers. I asked how much? He said $5. I did not even try to bargain. You need to know when to keep your mouth shut, not one of my strongest qualities. I paid exactly what he wanted for everything and walked away. As I did his shrew wife started screeching "He ripped you off!" How can you rip someone off when you pay exactly what they ask? I got home, called a doctor I know who collected Civil War and Baseball and sold it for $350. Probably worth quite a bit more today, but I was happy with that. My main collecting is Olympic photography. I also collect, buy and sell Olympic autographs. I am very fortunate as I am able to find quality signatures of rare Olympians that European collectors need. That is my main market. I saw this photo on ebay. It was of a U.S. fencer who competed in 1920, 1924 and 1928 and it was signed by him. I got it for about $20. When it arrived I noticed the writing below the photo. On the left '1928'. On the right, the signature of the photographer - Nickolas Muray. Muray was a world famous photographer in the 1920's and 1930's. He travelled the world photographing famous people including almost everyone in Hollywood, Claude Monet, Charlie Chaplin and others. The portrait of Babe Ruth sitting with the bat on his left shoulder was taken by him. The best known photos of Frida Kahlo (think the movie 'Frida' with Selma Hayek) are by him. He was also her lover. Not only was he a photographer, he was a fencer, competing for the U.S. at the 1928 and 1932 Olympics. He died while fencing at a club in New York City. You can find his photos on ebay. Some blind stamped, some stamped and some signed with a stylized version of his last name. They can range from hundreds to thousands. Not a bad pickup for something that will stay in my collection. lyon-1.jpg
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04-18-2022, 12:28 AM
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Picked up these three at a small antique mall for just over $100.
One of the three had a little bit of value!
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04-18-2022, 03:57 AM
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Well probably me best deal ever was not a card purchase. it was a stamp collection.
About 4 or 5 years ago, I answered a craigslist add for a stamp collection for sale for $200.00. I decided to check it out. I drove an hour and 30 minutes to the Allentown, PA. area and made the purchase. In the very large collection was about $4,325.00 is unused United States postage stamps ready to be used for postage. I have been using them to send out my ebay sales. I am still using them and selling lots once in a while at a discount. Besides the unused stamps there were many other US stamps that I sold anywhere from a few dollars to about $75.00. I figure the total value of my $200.00 investment was about $6,000.00+. Not bad considering I was out of work at the time. Last edited by philliesfan; 04-18-2022 at 03:57 AM.
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04-18-2022, 07:11 AM
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I collected T206 cards as a teenager and finished the set in 2003, so with current prices a lot of them would be great deals. One of the deals that really stands out now started off bad.
A board member here begged for a Carolina Brights Eddie Collins at least ten years ago and said they needed it for their collection. We had made previous deals, so I decided to let it go for a even trade to help them out. A month later it was in a graded holder and in an auction, where it got a good price. Definitely more than I would have sold it for, but much less than what it would go for now (I think it was just over $1,200 with the juice). Needless to say, I was furious and didn't do any more deals with that person and still wouldn't. Cut to 2022 prices and I have a low grade Roger Bresnahan Carolina Brights back to replace the back in my collection, a mid-grade Hal Chase pink portrait (with a large crop mark on the back, which I collected) and a replacement Eddie Collins for my set that was in nicer shape than the original one (common back though). I paid $110 for the original Collins, so I'd say it worked out great for me in the long run (especially since I would have sold it for about $800 back then and just replaced the Collins with part of that money), but I definitely didn't like the middle part.
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04-18-2022, 07:54 AM
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Back in the earlier days of the Net54 board when I was just getting into pre-war I had wanted to collect the E95 set as a starting point. Another board member (I don't remember who any longer) offered me 12 of the players in the set for $250.00. It included Wagner, Matty, Chance, Collins, and Crawford. I also picked up a nice E95 Cobb about a month later from the board for $115.00.
I wish I still had all the scans of my collection before I liquidated it in 2008 due to some financial needs. Bill
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04-18-2022, 09:08 AM
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The Babe that wasn't, then was
When I was in high school in central NY, there was a card auction at a hole in the wall auction house. I had a bunch of summer jobs, and was scarfing up on T206's at $10 a piece, which were all HoF'ers. Near the end of the sale, a 1933 Babe Ruth came up for sale, winning price was $400, my dad was pushing me to go for it, but I was content with my haul. Of course then came the remorse for not going for it. Fast forward 20+ years, I moved to Oregon and always kept tabs on another hole in the wall auction house. One week, randomly, a 1933 Babe Ruth popped up, not in great shape, but still, a chance for redemption. I went and looked at it, and confirmed it was the real deal. Bidding starts, and I jumped in, hammer price $375. It ended up grading a PSA 1, with current prices, I would say that is my best. Close second would be the 48 Leaf Jackie Robinson that I bought from a very angry, recently divorced wife who sold it to me for $800, which graded a PSA 4.
I was on the other side of a "helluva deal" on this very board around 2009. I sold my T206 collection to a board member for $1500, and I can only imagine what that lot is worth now. I needed the money to ship my paintings to my first solo gallery opening, so it went to a good cause, but I know there was a lot of value in there. Oh to go back in time...
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04-18-2022, 09:41 AM
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In 1958 I bought a Little League teammate's collection of about 250 cards for $4. Most were '51-'53 Bowmans and '53 Topps, but there were also two Leaf Ruths. I traded one Ruth but I still have the other one, a PSA 4.
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Baseball cards will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no baseball cards.--The Fabulous Furry Freak Bros. (paraphrased)
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04-18-2022, 11:14 AM
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When you started collecting so long ago, almost every deal sounds "sick" by today's standards.
One of the best deals was a deal my dad got for me as a present. He traded two Daily News "715" Hank Aaron newspapers PLUS 35$ for a Red t206 Cobb. The Cobb is a Polar bear and a bit rough but no creasing. In any case, great deal. Another is when I was at a card show around 1987(ish) and this table had binders of T206 beaters. Backs weren't a big deal back then so everything was priced "3 for 15$" and the such. I was only 12 and I think I blew my show budget there (wish I had done more damage). I got a Kling Sov150, a MyersAB, and the real coup was a Hal Chase Dark Cap Red Hindu. My t206 focus at the time were HOF Portraits...So then, and I think I am remembering this correctly, as I was leaving, he had this really beat up Cy Young Portrait. I know I didn't pay more than 10/15 dollars for it but don't think it counted as part of the 3 for 15. I still dream about that table...and time machines
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04-18-2022, 01:36 PM
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Here are some prices I paid on my first collection.. I sold it in 2015 so the prices are from there back....I might post the next ones later...
1914 B18 Boone and envelope ex 50 1914 B18 Blanket Chance vg-ex 20. 1914 B18 Blanket Dots Miller color variation vg 80 1914 BF2 Pennant Judge ex 100 x1916 BF2 Pennant Honus Wagner vg 550 1916 BF2 Pennant Premium Alexanxer ex 3585 1916 BF2-Unc Pillow Top w/Wags/Cobb/Johnson etc vg+ 6573 1916 BF2-Unc Movie Stars Mary Fuller and v.Rich pr 11-total 1936-37 BF3-1 Felt Paul Waner fr 25 1936-37 BF3-2 Appling ex 30 1936-37 BF3-3 Terry ex 30 1936-37 BF3-2 Warneke miscut fr 12 1936-37BF3-4 Giants,Pirates,Reds,White Sox gd 15 ea 1936-37 BF3-5 Athletics,Bees,Cubs,Tigers gd 15 1936-37 BF3-7 Joe Dimaggio ex 70 1936-37 BF3-7 Paul Waner ex 30 1936-37 BF3-8 Lucas gd 23, Yankees Champs vg 15 1936-37 BF3-9 Giehl (1938) gd 165 1936-37 BF3-9 Durocher, Lopez vg+ 15 1936-37 BF3-11 Colonels, St.Paul Saints vg 15 1937 BF104 Mack, Hartnett, York vg 219 ea 1910's B-unc Pennant McBride fr 102 1913 BF-Unc Cravats felt Dooin pr 170 1913 BF-Unc Cravats felt McGraw pr 300 1937- B-unc Pennant Rowe vg 200 1911 C46 McGinnity vg-ex 90. 1932 D32 Drakes Cakes Ruth sgc40 3000 1940s D38 Bell Bakeries base runner plus 6 vg 10 1940's D39-8 Gordon's Bread base runner gd 10 1930s D48 Invisible Color Pictures A Home Run Wools gd 50 1947 D302 Bond Bread Robinson portrait SGC10 95 x1914 D303 Gen Baking Speaker sgc20 1750 x1914 D303 Mothers Br. Chase sgc40 180. x1914 D304 Fleischmanns Kelly vg+ 150 x1914 D304 General Baking Chance gd-vg 550 X1914 D304 Martens Bakery Cobb sgc 30 10000 x1914 D304 Weber Collins sgc50 190 x1914 D304 Brunners Bell ex 60 x1914 D304 Brunners Br. Evers sgc40 101. 1914 D304 General Baking Rucker (miscut back) pr 60 1047 D305 Bond Bread Mize ex round corners 20 x1948 D305 Bond Bread Kiner ex square corners 25 1947 D305 Bond Bread Feller/London Dry stamp pr 57 1911 D310 Pac Co Bisc Moore W/cancellation pr 103 X1911 D310 Pac Co Bisc Stinson w/stamp sgc80 909 1911 D310 Pac.Co.Bisc. Thompson GD 70. nice purple cancellation x1911 D310 Pac.Co.Bisc. Weaver sgc10 670 1911 D310 Pac.Co.Bisc. Ryan gd+ 30 x1911 D311 Pac.Co.Bis. Byram sgc40 125 x1911 D311 Pac.Co.Bis. Arrelanes sgc40 50 1911 D311 Pac Co Bis Danzil w/overprint back pr 200 x1911 D311 Pac.Co.Bis. Maggert vg 20 1911 D311 Melchoir SGC40 256 x1911 D311 Pac.Co.Bis. Van Buren vg 20 1947 D315-2 Sunbeam Br. Babbit vg+ 10 1947 D315-2 Sunbeam Br. (back variation) Warmer ex+ 39 1946 D317 Remar Bread Stengel gd 19 1947 D317 Remar Bread Sabol fr - 1949 D317 Remar Bread Martin vg-ex - 1950 D317 Remar Bread Gettel ex-mt - 1950 D317 Remar Kelley vg 25 x1910 D322 Tip Top Brea Clarke sgc50 365. 1947 D323 Tip Top Garagiola PSA 2 50 x1921 D327 Holsum Bread Hornsby sgc50 50. 1916 D350-1/ E135 Tesreau vg+ 30. Standard Biscuit 1916 D350-1 / E135 Baker pr -clipped 65 1922 D350-3/E121 Standard Bisc Strunk sgc50 150 x1911 D359 Williams Bak. Baker sgc50 450 x1911 D359 Williams Bak. Davis SGC60 - x1911 D359 Rochester Livingston sgc40 634 x1910 D380 Clement Bros. McConnell SGC30 1300 Oval x1910 D380 Clement Bros.McConnell SGC10 150. Square x1916 D381 Fleischman's Wagner sgc30 3525. w/ coupon & (type 1 photo $450) x1916 D381-1 Fergusons Burns SGC 40 vg 3884 w/coupon x1916 D381-1 Fergusons Lewis SGC 40 vg 2760 w/coupon x1934 D382 Tarzan /Trophy Bridges fr-gd 690 x1934 D382 Tarzan Munns SGC 30 500 1921 D383 Koester Stengel sgc40 600 1910s D-unc Schmidt’s bakery Dressing dolls baseball gd 20 1921 D-Unc Tip Top Bread Lefler SGC 20 3525 1927 D-unc Middy Bread Mullen gd 179 1927 D-unc Middy Bread Shang (sp?) gd 448 1928 D-Unc Greiners Bread Harris SGC50 5500 1936 D-Unc Kroger Bread Bolen pr 228 1936 D-Unc Kroger Bread Heath full card pr 250 1936 D-Unc Kroger Bread Logan pr 250 1938 D-unc Sawyer Biscuit Hartnett vg+ 318 1938 D-Unc Sawyer Biscuit Dean ex-mt 77 1938 D-Unc Sawyer Biscuit PorkChops whitehead ex -mt 77 1940's D-unc Rubel Baking x2 announcer vg 75 ea 1945 D-Unc Beaver PCL teams- 9 x 19, 9 x14, signs pr 2x 10ea 1946 Gordon’s Bread, Tacoma Tigers, team display 17” x 8 ½”, pr 50 1947 D-Unc Gordon’s Bread, Morley Studios Tigers Kuper pr trim … 30 1947 D-Unc Bond Bread Premiums- Musial fr 16 1921 Exhibit Maranville GD 30. 1922 Exhibit Baker vg 50 1922 Exhibit Heilman gd 45 no border 1922 Eastern Exhibit PC Speaker vg 95 1925 Exhibit Collins vg 60 1926 Exhibit Frisch- sliding vg 38 1927 Exhibit Traynor vg 55 1927 Exhibit green tint Goslin vg 70 1928 Exhibit PCL Weathersby vg 200 1928 Exhibit PCL Weathersby w/stamped back sgc30 100 1929/30 Exhibit 4-1 Grover Alexander vg 55 1931/32 Exhibit 4-1 Stewart Farrel,Gray,Kress SGC10 30 1936 4-1 Exhibit Appling, Dykes, Lyons, Bonura, SGC40 40 1937 Exhibits 4-1 Gehrig Dimaggio Lazzeri Gomez gd+ 275 1939-46 Exhibit Salut. Dimaggio, Greenberg,Evers, 114 total 1947-1966 Exhibits Hal Newhouser signed ex 35 1947-1966 Exhibits Bearden w/ An Exhibit Card on front, ex - x1920's Exhibit-unc Ruth gd+ 405 1920's Exhibit generic baseball cut out ex 25 1920s Exhibit 4 in 1 Anon. w/Johnson, Simmons boxer sgc30 350 1920s Exhibit 4 in 1 Anon. Smith, Kelly etc.....sgc45 185 1929 Exhibits unc Star Picture Stamps Ruth vg- 200 1940's Exhibit ad piece w/young,mack,mcgraw gd 68 1909 E90-1 Amer.Car. Jennings vg 41. 1909 E90-1 Knight PSA 2 crosshairs 75 x1909 E90-1 Amer.Car. Murphy pr-fr 400 e-unc Managerie Gum back x1909 E90-1 Amer.Car. Young-Boston SGC 50 800 1910 E90-1 Amer.Car Krause - miscut back pr - 1910 E90-2 Amer.Car Clarke - miscut back pr 150 1910 E90-2 Amer. Car. Maddox gd+ 50. x1910 E90-2 Amer. Car. Wagner sgc20 1000. x1910 E90-3 Amer. Car Gandil sgc40 1910 E90-3 Amer.Car. Hofman miscut SGC20 200 1910 E91- a Amer Car Sheet w/Plank pr 569 1910 E91-A Amer. Car. McGraw SGC 20 60 1909 E91-B Amer.Car Plank sgc40 75 1909 E91-C Amer.Car. Johnson EX 350. 1909 E91-C Amer.Car. Browne SGC 40 140 1909 E92 Nadja Baily miscut back SGC 30 69 1909 E92 Nadja Jennings fr 340 1909 E92 Nadja Wallace ex 180 1909 E92 Nadja Oakes SGC50 150 x1909 E92 Crofts Cocoa Jennings vg 80 x1909 E92 Crofts Cocoa Miller vg 70 x1909 E92 Crofts Candy Mathewson black back gd-vg 205 1909 E92 Crofts Candy Bescher black back miscut gd 130 1909 E92 Crofts Candy Jennings blue back SGC40 25. 1909 E92 Crofts Candy Davis blue back SGC40 200 1909 e92 Crofts Candy Barry re d back AUT 350 1909 e92 Crofts Candy Bemis red back AUT 350 Missing 1909 e92 Crofts Candy Bescher red back vg-ex 350 x1909 e92 Crofts Candy Davis red back ex 350 x1909 e92 Crofts Candy Miller red back sgc40 800 1909 E92 Dockman Lajoie CTA 4 135. x1909 E92 Dockman Young vg-ex 200. x1909 E92- unc Magee SGC40 450. E78 boxing back x1909 E92- unc Young SGC20 550. E78 boxing back 1909 E92 Miller fielding SGC40 100 blank back x1910 E93 Standard Car.Waddell SGC 40 205. 1910 E93 Standard Car. Dooin SGCA 210 x1911 E94 Close Candy Grant sgc10 1040 Your Safe if you eat x1911 E94 Close Candy Kleinow sgc30 1040 Your safe Have a Cuckoo x1911 E94 Close Candy Cicotte sgc30 1040 Close's Oppie Dildock x1911 E94 Close Candy Speaker sgc10 1040 Home Run for Closes Butter Balls x1911 E94 Close Candy Cicotte sgc40 1040 Your Out if you don't eat.. x1911 E94 Close Candy Turner sgc50 1040 A Base Hit Close's Sponge Cake x1911 E94 Close Candy Lake sgc30 1040 Three Strikes get a Lemon x1911 E94 Close Candy Bates sgc20 795. Blomes overprint x1911 E94- Close Candy Doolan sgc 40 1800 Oh You Fan! x1911 E94 Close Candy Byrne vg 1350 Pennant Winners 1911 E94 Evers (red background) SGC30 525 x1911 E94 Crawford orange background sgc20 2040 1909 E95 Phil Car. Chance vg-ex 170. 1909 E95 Cobb SGC45 2600 1910 E96 Phil. Car. Marquard gd-vg 110. 1910 E96 Notebook Tinker vg+ 110
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04-18-2022, 01:48 PM
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04-18-2022, 02:02 PM
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About 10 years ago, I bought an ungraded, autographed 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan Rookie Card (gorgeous early autograph) on ebay for $650. I sent the card to PSA for grading; came back a PSA 8. I sold it for $4,000. Within a few months, I later see it was upgraded to PSA 9. Well, in the end, I was happy because I was able to purchase Arod's First Career Grand Slam Bat (PSA 9.5) with the money. Since then, I have been offered $12,500 and $15,000 for the bat. Sorry, not for sale!
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04-18-2022, 04:43 PM
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