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Old 05-07-2022, 02:35 PM
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So there actually may be an awful lot more to see and do in Cleveland than you can imagine, you just have to get off your duff and go do something.
I've only been to one National and it was Cleveland in 2018 because I could stay with family and save the cost of a hotel. And Cleveland is a great town. My wife and I have talked about, when we are ready to stop dealing with the farm, retiring to one of the neighborhoods near downtown like Ohio City or Tremont. Ohio City in particular is a great place to visit with all sorts of restaurants and microbreweries. And for folks who like amusement parks, Cedar Point is just an hour away.

As far as alternate locations, I have been to three of the Dallas shows in recent years and I thought they were well organized. I would have thought, contra Rich, that they could probably put on a good National show. But, what about Houston? I wouldn't want to live there, but the TriStar show seems to do fairly well.

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I've only been to one National and it was Cleveland in 2018 because I could stay with family and save the cost of a hotel. And Cleveland is a great town. My wife and I have talked about, when we are ready to stop dealing with the farm, retiring to one of the neighborhoods near downtown like Ohio City or Tremont. Ohio City in particular is a great place to visit with all sorts of restaurants and microbreweries. And for folks who like amusement parks, Cedar Point is just an hour away.

As far as alternate locations, I have been to three of the Dallas shows in recent years and I thought they were well organized. I would have thought, contra Rich, that they could probably put on a good National show. But, what about Houston? I wouldn't want to live there, but the TriStar show seems to do fairly well.
Ohio City is very cool. Close by the famous Westside Market, which is also where Great Lakes Brewery is headquartered and has a restaurant/bar. And there is another great little eating establishment in the heart of the very residential area of Ohio City called Heck's Cafe, which also happens to be maybe 100 feet down the street from John Heisman's birthplace.

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I am going to go with the unpopular opinion here: I like the Cleveland show, sort of the way you like the weird cousin you visit with at a family event--not exactly someone you'd pal around with all the time, but interesting every year or so. As long as you understand that you are going to be in a car every day to and from the venue, and in a car any time you want to get a decent meal. The airport is easy to get through, the hotel aren't walkable to the show but some are pretty close, and once you resign yourself to a drive, you can find some really good places to eat. Last time a group of us had a couple of really good dinners in town. We just had to drive there. Good ice cream too...if that makes a difference.

As for Vegas, I've been to a number of bar association events there in the summer months, and have gone there on trips myself. Yeah, it is hot outside, but everything is available and room prices are really good. Plus, the airport is world class.
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Adam - You used to hate the National in Cleveland. What changed your mind ?
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Driving. Being from LA it is a treat for me to go a place where I do not need a car, so I hate having to rent a car and deal with it, but last time I decided to go with it and had a good time. Getting away from the IX Center is critical, as is not using the bathrooms there after 10:00 a.m. (worst place to drop a deuce this side of TJ). Still, Rosemont is light years better.
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Driving. Being from LA it is a treat for me to go a place where I do not need a car, so I hate having to rent a car and deal with it, but last time I decided to go with it and had a good time. Getting away from the IX Center is critical, as is not using the bathrooms there after 10:00 a.m. (worst place to drop a deuce this side of TJ). Still, Rosemont is light years better.
Huge difference is there's little traffic in and around Cleveland.
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That's true but in Rosemont I can skip the car entirely.
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I am going to go with the unpopular opinion here: I like the Cleveland show, sort of the way you like the weird cousin you visit with at a family event--not exactly someone you'd pal around with all the time, but interesting every year or so. As long as you understand that you are going to be in a car every day to and from the venue, and in a car any time you want to get a decent meal. The airport is easy to get through, the hotel aren't walkable to the show but some are pretty close, and once you resign yourself to a drive, you can find some really good places to eat. Last time a group of us had a couple of really good dinners in town. We just had to drive there. Good ice cream too...if that makes a difference.

As for Vegas, I've been to a number of bar association events there in the summer months, and have gone there on trips myself. Yeah, it is hot outside, but everything is available and room prices are really good. Plus, the airport is world class.
2nd you on liking Cleveland ^

My wife dragged me in a cab 45 minutes outside Cleveland to Vermillion to go to a fancy restaurant on the water. Little town was super cool and we ended up having a great dinner and walk around near the lake. Don't remember much of what I purchased that National, but I do remember all of the Vermillion experience.
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