Ryan and run support

[G1911]

Originally Posted by SteveWhite

Bob Welch 1990 Oakland A's 27-6.

This is a great example. Clemens should have won the Cy that year and I don't think it was even close.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

This is a great example. Clemens should have won the Cy that year and I don't think it was even close.

Weird that Welch would win the Cy Young over Clemens when Clemens came in third in MVP voting and Welch came in 9th. Hey, this might be the first time we agree on something!!!

[Snapolit1]

Ryan was a great pitcher first tier hall of famer but it's curious seeing the vaulted place he now has among fans and collectors of a certain age. It's almost like he's become the Mickey Mantle of pitchers. People like Steve Carlton don't seem to get 1/1000th the love and attention.

[Touch'EmAll]

The Wow! factor gets the attention. Mickey Mantle was Wow!, Nolan Ryan was Wow! Missed the Welch season, my bad.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Weird that Welch would win the Cy Young over Clemens when Clemens came in third in MVP voting and Welch came in 9th. Hey, this might be the first time we agree on something!!!

Ok

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by G1911

Ok

Ok ok

[SteveWhite]

I just remember that Welch did it in 1990, because my Reds played the A's in the World Series. Of course the Reds had no chance according to the experts, and then swept the A's. Also many Reds fans would still believe that in 1981 that Tom Seaver should have won the Cy Young. But like you stated Fernando had the "wow' season.