1936 sports stamps

BobC · #1 05-27-2022, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks Bob, great information and I appreciate the information. I was doing research on the stamps over the last few weeks and did note that both PSA and SGC had a few in their population report and noted a dual graded stamp. I also took note that PSA seemed to have only the Detroit Press version. I have several stamps from the Chicago American and also the Sporting News All Star Stamps.

Yes, I did remove this from an original 1935-36 scrapbook that contained numerous newspaper clippings and articles from 1936. The majority were focused on the Cubs, Cardinals and Yankees. All were in outstanding condition but were of course attached to a page. Th e substance used to attach them wasn't glue, but felt more like a salt like substance. Some came off rather easily but some did not.

What really got my attention in the scrapbook was the complete panels as I had not previously seen any complete panels that contained 6 players.

Attached is a picture of a 6 stamp panel that I'm talking about. It contains some pretty big names since it was the 1936 All Star version, including Dizzy Dean.

Have you seen a 6 panel version before? I think they are pretty scarce. Since they are so fragile, I think encapsulation would really help in preserving them.

No, I have not seen a six stamp panel before, that is really fantastic. I don't have any Sports Stamps from the Sporting News, at least not yet. I've got dual player/athlete Sports Stamp panels from the Detroit Times and Los Angeles Examiner. I think that most regular newspapers, like those two, issued these Sports Stamps in dual player/athlete panels, and that the six player panel you have may be unique to just the Sporting News. Since the Sporting News is not a general newspaper for a specific city/area, they may have opted to do more of these at once, whereas the regular papers limited themselves due to whatever reasons.

In addition to those Sports Stamps I have from the Detroit Times and Los Angeles Examiner, I've also got single player/athlete Sports Stamps from the Atlanta Georgian-American, Boston American, and Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph. So I have Sports Stamps from five of the eight different publications they were printed in. Just missing examples from the Chicago American, Sporting News, and Sunday Advertiser, which I'm hoping to come across some day. I also have a few of other newspaper cutouts called Baseball Scrap Book, that appear to be issued in 1934, based on dates on the items and a Yankees-Tigers box score on the reverse of one showing Ruth and Gehrig in the NY lineup. These included portraits of two players side-by-side, and actually had the player images sequentially numbered, as in a numbered set. Not sure what newspaper they were from, but I do have two of these Baseball Scrap Book cutouts with player images numbered 37 and 38. The thing is though, they are of different players, which makes me wonder it they are possibly from different newspapers that printed the sets in different numerical order. I think these Sports Stamps (and Baseball Scrap Book cutouts) are fantastic items, very underappreciated, and for now, still relatively cheap. The trick is finding them for sale, if you can. The fact that they were cut out from newspapers 86+ years ago, and have survived till today, is truly amazing if you ask me.

Your six-player panel is truly outstanding though. I don't know if PSA would grade it, since they only seem to grade the stamps from the Detroit Times, but SGC's Pop Reports show they have graded one single Sports Stamp from the Sporting News, a Lou Gehrig stamp. So, SGC may grade your six-player panel, assuming they can fit it into one of their oversized slabs. You can always contact them and ask. Good luck with that panel, it is a great piece!

And if you've got any extra Sports Stamps from the newspapers I'm still missing examples of, and interested to maybe trade to get ones from other publications you don't have as well , let me know and maybe we can do some swapping. LOL Take care.

gonefishin · #2 05-27-2022, 01:01 PM

Thanks Bob. I kind of regret removing the majority of sports stamps from the binder because it was truly unique. There were 4, six panel pages in the album and one of the panels contained a DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Joe McCarthy stamp which is pretty cool in the same panel. There are also some great articles from the day, with several regarding Gehrig, DiMaggio and Dizzy Dean.

Since everyone has been so helpful with the Sports Stamps, maybe some members might help identify a couple of players in a photo I have. A few years ago I acquired several personal photos and ephemera that belonged to Jimmie Wilson. Wilson passed away in 1947. All the items were authentic and original from the period. The photo in question is a picture of Wilson, Bob Feller in uniform and 2 other people I just can't recognize. Maybe someone out there can assist. Maybe it needs to be a separate post, I'm not sure. Regardless, attached is the photo. I greatly appreciate any thoughts on who the other people are. I believe the photo was taken in Florida at a Spring Training session probably around 43-45 period. If this should be a different thread I apologize. Thanks.

BobC · #3 05-27-2022, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks Bob. I kind of regret removing the majority of sports stamps from the binder because it was truly unique. There were 4, six panel pages in the album and one of the panels contained a DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Joe McCarthy stamp which is pretty cool in the same panel. There are also some great articles from the day, with several regarding Gehrig, DiMaggio and Dizzy Dean.

Since everyone has been so helpful with the Sports Stamps, maybe some members might help identify a couple of players in a photo I have. A few years ago I acquired several personal photos and ephemera that belonged to Jimmie Wilson. Wilson passed away in 1947. All the items were authentic and original from the period. The photo in question is a picture of Wilson, Bob Feller in uniform and 2 other people I just can't recognize. Maybe someone out there can assist. Maybe it needs to be a separate post, I'm not sure. Regardless, attached is the photo. I greatly appreciate any thoughts on who the other people are. I believe the photo was taken in Florida at a Spring Training session probably around 43-45 period. If this should be a different thread I apologize. Thanks.

Wow! Four different six-player panels, that is fantastic. Sounds like you just had Sporting News issued Sports Stamps in this scrapbook then.

And that picture is fantastic as well, though I'm no help as to who the other two people in it are. Sounds like this scrapbook had some great items in it.

insidethewrapper · #4 05-27-2022, 02:09 PM

There is a 12 player panel from the 1936 Detroit Times from June 28th, 1936. When I get my scanner working again I will post. That's why there are 12 variations in the Detroit Times set. These 12 stamps are different than the ones that were issued in 2 card panels on different dates. If you have any questions on this set let me know, I've done a lot of micro-film research.

BobC · #5 05-27-2022, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

There is a 12 player panel from the 1936 Detroit Times from June 28th, 1936. When I get my scanner working again I will post. That's why there are 12 variations in the Detroit Times set. These 12 stamps are different than the ones that were issued in 2 card panels on different dates. If you have any questions on this set let me know, I've done a lot of micro-film research.

I had never heard of a 12 player-panel before. That is crazy.

So little is really known about these Sports Stamps if you ask me. Very underappreciated and undervalued IMO. Especially when you can find them in virtually pristine shape from when they were cut from the papers. wonder if there also isn't a complete page or two out there somewhere with these stamps still on them. Scott Russell's recent auction had a complete newspaper page with a Walter Johson Rinkydink stamp on it from 1927. Had never seen one of those before.

insidethewrapper · #6 05-27-2022, 02:25 PM

Here's a previous thread with the 12 card panel from the June 28th Detroit times and an ad about the Stamps : https://net54baseball.com/showthread...detroit+stamps

The 12 Panel Detroit Times Stamps are Variations from June 28th , 1936 :

Here's the 12 variations : Braddock ( James J. / Jimmy ), Canzoneri ( teeth showing/no teeth showing ), Christensen ( Geo./ George), Cochrane ( white cap/dark cap), Dean (Bio first line "Star pitcher of"/ "of" on second line), Dempsey ( Bio ends "$2,000,000 / Bio ends "daughter"), Gehrig ( Bio first line "slugging first"/"slugging"), Gehringer ( Charles/Chas.), Goslin ( white cap/dark cap), Rowe ( white cap/dark cap), Sarazen ( Dark background both sides ear down with large head/ Dark background one side only ear down with smaller head ), Schmeling ( teeth showing/no teeth showing).

joejo20 · #7 05-27-2022, 02:28 PM

BobC · #8 05-27-2022, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

Here's a previous thread with the 12 card panel from the June 28th Detroit times and an ad about the Stamps : https://net54baseball.com/showthread...detroit+stamps

The 12 Panel Detroit Times Stamps are Variations from June 28th , 1936 :

Here's the 12 variations : Braddock ( James J. / Jimmy ), Canzoneri ( teeth showing/no teeth showing ), Christensen ( Geo./ George), Cochrane ( white cap/dark cap), Dean (Bio first line "Star pitcher of"/ "of" on second line), Dempsey ( Bio ends "$2,000,000 / Bio ends "daughter"), Gehrig ( Bio first line "slugging first"/"slugging"), Gehringer ( Charles/Chas.), Goslin ( white cap/dark cap), Rowe ( white cap/dark cap), Sarazen ( Dark background both sides ear down with large head/ Dark background one side only ear down with smaller head ), Schmeling ( teeth showing/no teeth showing).

Thanks Mike,

Somehow missed that thread. Some great items in it.

By the way, did the checklisting and all you did, was that just for the Detroit Times Sports Stamps, or did you look at issues from any of the other papers as well?

spec · #9 05-27-2022, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks Bob. I kind of regret removing the majority of sports stamps from the binder because it was truly unique. There were 4, six panel pages in the album and one of the panels contained a DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Joe McCarthy stamp which is pretty cool in the same panel. There are also some great articles from the day, with several regarding Gehrig, DiMaggio and Dizzy Dean.

Since everyone has been so helpful with the Sports Stamps, maybe some members might help identify a couple of players in a photo I have. A few years ago I acquired several personal photos and ephemera that belonged to Jimmie Wilson. Wilson passed away in 1947. All the items were authentic and original from the period. The photo in question is a picture of Wilson, Bob Feller in uniform and 2 other people I just can't recognize. Maybe someone out there can assist. Maybe it needs to be a separate post, I'm not sure. Regardless, attached is the photo. I greatly appreciate any thoughts on who the other people are. I believe the photo was taken in Florida at a Spring Training session probably around 43-45 period. If this should be a different thread I apologize. Thanks.

Are you sure Bob Feller is in this photo? I don't see him; he was fighting WWII in 1943-45.

gonefishin · #10 05-27-2022, 04:13 PM

Yes, Jimmie Wilson is on the right and Bob Feller is sitting next to him in the Naval uniform. It's the other 2 gents I can't identify.

An interesting piece of history is Jimmie Wilson's son, 2dLt Robert J. Wilson, was a casualty of WWII. He served in the Army Air Forces and died in a plane crash on November 28, 1944. Jimmie died a few years later in 1947. May they both RIP.

jingram058 · #11 08-07-2022, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks Bob. I kind of regret removing the majority of sports stamps from the binder because it was truly unique. There were 4, six panel pages in the album and one of the panels contained a DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Joe McCarthy stamp which is pretty cool in the same panel. There are also some great articles from the day, with several regarding Gehrig, DiMaggio and Dizzy Dean.

Since everyone has been so helpful with the Sports Stamps, maybe some members might help identify a couple of players in a photo I have. A few years ago I acquired several personal photos and ephemera that belonged to Jimmie Wilson. Wilson passed away in 1947. All the items were authentic and original from the period. The photo in question is a picture of Wilson, Bob Feller in uniform and 2 other people I just can't recognize. Maybe someone out there can assist. Maybe it needs to be a separate post, I'm not sure. Regardless, attached is the photo. I greatly appreciate any thoughts on who the other people are. I believe the photo was taken in Florida at a Spring Training session probably around 43-45 period. If this should be a different thread I apologize. Thanks.

Uhhhh...the guy on the left is Bucky Walters, the guy on the right is Jimmie Wilson. The 2 guys in uniform...the Lieutenant (left) I do not recognize. He is wearing "aviation greens", and appears to be wearing pilot wings. The Lieutenant-Commander is not Bob Feller. He was a Chief Petty Officer, not an officer, and he was not in the Medical Corps (this fellow seems to be wearing flight surgeon wings), he was a Gunner's Mate (plus, no self-respecting Chief would wear an officer's uniform). I believe this fellow is wearing a Cincinnati Reds hat, not Cleveland Indians, and while he looks a little bit like Bob Feller, I would bet the farm it is not him. Still, a nice photo with Walters and Wilson. It was Jimmie Wilson who converted Bucky Walters into a great pitcher after mediocrity as a third baseman.

gonefishin · #12 08-08-2022, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

Uhhhh...the guy on the left is Bucky Walters, the guy on the right is Jimmie Wilson. The 2 guys in uniform...the Lieutenant (left) I do not recognize. He is wearing "aviation greens", and appears to be wearing pilot wings. The Lieutenant-Commander is not Bob Feller. He was a Chief Petty Officer, not an officer, and he was not in the Medical Corps (this fellow seems to be wearing flight surgeon wings), he was a Gunner's Mate (plus, no self-respecting Chief would wear an officer's uniform). I believe this fellow is wearing a Cincinnati Reds hat, not Cleveland Indians, and while he looks a little bit like Bob Feller, I would bet the farm it is not him. Still, a nice photo with Walters and Wilson. It was Jimmie Wilson who converted Bucky Walters into a great pitcher after mediocrity as a third baseman.

Thanks James, I sent this to PSA for certification and identification. It was returned stating they couldn't identify anyone and didn't classify the photo. Thanks for the information on Bucky Walters and the information on the other 2. Much appreciated. I'm just going to hang onto it.

jingram058 · #13 08-08-2022, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks James, I sent this to PSA for certification and identification. It was returned stating they couldn't identify anyone and didn't classify the photo. Thanks for the information on Bucky Walters and the information on the other 2. Much appreciated. I'm just going to hang onto it.

No problem, sir. I went ahead and posted this in a separate thread in case it would gain more visibility. It is indeed an interesting photo.

MikeGarcia · #14 08-09-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin

Thanks James, I sent this to PSA for certification and identification. It was returned stating they couldn't identify anyone and didn't classify the photo. Thanks for the information on Bucky Walters and the information on the other 2. Much appreciated. I'm just going to hang onto it.

I fear I already know the answer , but did they keep your money ?..

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gonefishin · #15 08-09-2022, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

I fear I already know the answer , but did they keep your money ?..

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No, PSA only charged for shipping on both the Sport Stamps and photo. That was the good thing.

Lordstan · #16 12-10-2022, 08:43 PM

Great info. here is my Gehrig from Detroit Times.

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